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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by charles_creech78, Apr 21, 2009.

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  1. tinytim

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    So you are saying you are God.... For only God does not sin.




    The Bible says

    1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

    Repent, and confess your sins, and God will forgive you..
    But if you hang onto this... "I do not commit sin".. you cannot be forgiven.
     
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  2. Harold Garvey

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    Wow! You people sure jump on each other alot here.

    The Bible teaches us that in our saved position we are sinless, but that our flesh does sin and that it should rather obey the spirit and reap life everlasting.

    The flesh lusteth against the spirit and the spirit against the flesh; they will never be in total agreement with each other.

    We have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the Righteous.

    In Christ we are perfectly sinless, but we are still in this robe of flesh which is subject and willing to sin. So the flesh is to be kept in subjection to the Spirit, yet we all fail at this, thus the need for advocacy.

    Sound a little confusing? No, not when we consider the differences between eternity and the here and now.:thumbs:
     
  3. charles_creech78

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    Did I say I don't sin. I said I cannot commit sin. I know what the scripture says DHK. I never once said I DON'T have sin. I said I DO NOT COMMIT SIN. For we have all sin and come short of the glory of God. Was you a sinner before you came to the cross of Jesus. We all was. I have told you I have sin. I get upset and get slack in the Lords work. That is unrightess. Therefore it is sin. But to commit it willfully I do not. I don't plain to get upset or slack in the Lords work. It is in my flesh because sin in condem in the flesh. But to go out and kill still commit adultery to lie. and other such like sins I cannot commit willfully. Your fruits will be nown. If you commit adultery then what are you? If you still what are you? If you lie what are you? It surely is not of God. Let me ask some of you that think you can do them kinds of sinn and be born again why doing them. It that not to blasphemy saying you are born again and can commit them. Is that not saying God is a unclean spirit. YES OR NO. Come on I have answer your yes and no.God dwells in a born again christain. Jesus said me and my father will come in and take up our abode with you AND GO NO MORE OUT. If he is still in you and goes no more out and you are commiting them sins are you not saying God is unclean? He said it clearly he will not dwell in a UNCLEAN temple. Ether you are of the devil or you are of God. Answer the ? DHK and the rest of you. YES OR NO.
     
  4. annsni

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    It does not sound like he's speaking of his position before God but his actions. He said that he doesn't sin. That's pretty clear what he's speaking of.
     
  5. charles_creech78

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    Come on Dhk and tiny tim answer the ?
     
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  6. 4His_glory

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    Wow...

    I am sorry that you do not see the fact that you indeed are a sinner. I pray the Lord would open your eyes to that fact.

    1 John 1:8-10:
    8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we ​q​confess our sins, He is ​​faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to ​cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we ​​make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.
     
  7. Harold Garvey

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    Not exactly, you cannot "hear" what he's saying, you only read what he said and have responded to what you thought he meant.

    I believe he's cleared it up and used the Bible correctly.

    I don't know what he's getting at other than praising the Lord that we who are saved cannot commit sin unto death for we are sanctified unto the Lord and under the Blood of Christ. We have a new nature to warn us of sin and to exhort us to obey godliness, yet we still have the old nature of sin which is not saved, nor ever will be saved.

    I believe that is what he means and it doesn't help other's views of us when we jump all over some one as many have here.

    I'm beginning to send a trend on Baptist Board I wasn't aware of before I joined. The same players seem to be the ones doing all the suspecting of what people mean when they say something not just right for the way their ears are tuned to hear.

    May I suggest a more quiet and meek spirit towards those we may think to be less mature than ourselves?
     
  8. charles_creech78

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    Read the rest of my post. I never said I don't have sin. I do not commit them.
     
  9. charles_creech78

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    Amen God bless you.
     
  10. Harold Garvey

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    1st, I don't know this guy, but you seem to be acting on the role of accusing him of sin when it's pretty clear he's speaking of his eternal position in Christ after he was saved, not as he was dead in tresspasses and sins like he was before salvation.

    Maybe it would be best for some to pray the Lord open their eyes to some facts and how they're treating other brothers in Christ here.:thumbs:
     
  11. Dr. Bob

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    Let's NOT call a brother a liar. That is against our rules.

    Let the Scripture call him a liar. "If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and do not have the truth in us."
     
  12. charles_creech78

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    Amen your right on. See he read my post.
     
  13. 4His_glory

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    You are playing with words now. Committing sin is the same as having sin.
     
  14. DHK

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    You are just playing a game of semantics.
    I don't sin.
    I don't commit sin.
    I don't have sin.

    They all mean the same thing, and 1John 1:8,10 still applies to you.
    The fact that you do not understand the other verses that you quoted from John's first epistle does not negate that fact that you still commit sin. First find out what it means "to commit sin," then you will come to a better understanding of Scripture. Every Christian commits sin. If they didn't the truth would not be in them, and they would be calling Christ a liar. Is that your position?
     
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    No. I was going on what he said. "I do not commit sin." That would be great if it were the case, but the Scripture is clear that we all sin, even after we are saved.
     
  16. rbell

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    admit it, Charles. You have posted something directly contrary to Scripture.

    Just admit it, apologize for it, and move on.
     
  17. charles_creech78

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    Scripture also says he that is born of God cannot commit sin for his seed remaneth in him and he cannot sin because he is born of God. God is not playing when he said that. what kinds of sin are you talking about they can do.I told you my sins. How did this turn to my sins. The ? was if we as born again christains saying we can commit such sins as I posted are they not blasphemy God by saying that they can. Yes or no.
     
  18. Harold Garvey

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    I John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

    Will any of you protest this verse too?

    I John 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.


    Doesn't seem like much love towards him is evident here.:tear:
     
  19. charles_creech78

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    I will not apologize for the truth. I gave you scripture and when did I do something to apologize for.
     
  20. DHK

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    Without me reading through the entire thread to find your post, what sins can a Christian not commit. I believe a Christian is capable of committing any sin. We still have a depraved nature that is at war with our new nature every day. Sometimes that new nature does not win. Again, you are misinterpreting the verses that you refer to above. You are not sinless as you infer. Keep in mind 1John 1:8,10.
     
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