Books/Documents of Faith

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  1. Walls

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    Mormons/Latterday Saints have the Book of Mormons. Muslims/Islams have the Koran. Jews have the Torah. The list could go on and on for all the different religions in the world. Each having there own specific book or documents of faith and practice.

    All these religions have just one word as their standard. Isn't this where they get their strength? They are one unified body of believers, whatever they may be.

    Shouldn't we as Christians be the same? How many branches of Christianity are there? How many different types of Baptists? Isn't it because there are so many Bibles?

    Ps 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

    Have you tried the words you use?

    How many people actually check out the Bible they use? Do they just use it because it is what they have always used and taught to use. How can one say that "the Bible I use is God's preserved word" without studying. In the garden Satan twisted God's word to decieve Eve. How do you know you haven't been deceived unless you try the Bible you have?
     
  2. Forever settled in heaven

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    > Originally posted by Walls:
    > Shouldn't we as Christians be the same?

    so, when were we supposed to ape other religionists?

    > How many branches of Christianity are there? How many different types of Baptists? Isn't it because there are so many Bibles?

    nice try, but no. not by a long shot. stop believing whatever propaganda u're on n start reading some real history!

    > Ps 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Have you tried the words you use?

    no, i'm not a furnace. u?

    > How many people actually check out the Bible they use? Do they just use it because it is what they have always used and taught to use. How can one say that "the Bible I use is God's preserved word" without studying. In the garden Satan twisted God's word to decieve Eve. How do you know you haven't been deceived unless you try the Bible you have?

    well, quit hissin n try reading the older threads. the answers r all there.


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  3. Walls

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    Gee, did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed?
     
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    No,not that,THIS:


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    Walls, I think your premise is flawed.

    Not all that unified. Islam is riven by many internal divisions. There are several bodies of Judaic religions, from rational to kabalist. There are many schools of Buddhism and Hinduism. They only seem monolithic to those on the outside.

    As far as the versions being the cause of dissension among Baptists, I would say that's a very, very minor factor. Most large Baptist fellowships accept a wide variety of translations without its causing a problem and find exactly the same doctrines in all of them. The recent battle in the Southern Baptist Convention, for example, was not at all related to translations.
     
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    There are several "denoms" of Muslims; Shiite, Sunni, etc. And there are Orthodox & other Jews, & on & on.

    God has many jobs for Christians, thus, the various denoms may have been born, plus, many Christians continued to keep the customs of their homelands that they didn't find sinful.

    As for the Bibles I use, I'm 100% confidant that each one is the word of God.
     
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    [​IMG]

    Gee, that's the 2nd time you've posted that caricature of a typical KJVOist.
     
  8. Walls

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    You may be right about the differences amongst the religions. I really haven't studied it out.

    I just figure, if there was only one Bible there wouldn't be all this division and seperation. Not to mention the critcism directed towards each other.

    Hey it was a good effort. It gets truly discouraging seeing ya'll bicker back and forth about which is or isn't God's word. Isn't that exactly what Satan wants?
     
  9. Forever settled in heaven

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    i guess u didn't geddit the 1st time.

    ok, let's try again:

    1. how many bibles were there when the schism happened betw Paul n Barnabas?

    2. how many bibles were there when Paul n Peter disagreed in Jerusalem?

    3. how many bibles were there when Luther broke fr the mother church?

    4. how many bibles are there when card-carrying KJBOs accuse bite each others' heads off?
    http://www.av1611.org/kjv/omadman.html
    http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/riplinger3.htm
    http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/newage.htm
    http://www.wayoflife.org/otimothy/tl05000d.htm

    5. what has the no. of bibles to do w schism in Christianity?

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    I sorta agree with you. If all the divisions were caused by the fact there are differing versions, then I would agree 100%. But the fact is Baptist's would disagree over anything. How many has seen a church split over carpet.
    I actually saw one over whether or not to give a whole turkey in a Christmas basket, or just a turkey breast.

    I hate the bickering also, but what should a Christian do when stared blankly in the face with a false doctrine?

    I stand against KJVO because I used to be one.
    I then learned the real truth, not just propoganda given out by pastors that has been duped.
    I studied church history,learned about the differing manuscripts, and researched the propaganda that was given to me when i was KJVO.

    Have you ever fell hook, line, and sinker for a lie? Then when you realized the truth, how did it make you feel?
    Right now I am mad at Satan for trying to destroy churches with KJVO, I am hurt because of all the pastors that have lied to me, and saddened that true fundamentalism has been taken over by this sect that teaches a doctrine that 1, is false, and 2, cannot be found in the Bible. any version.
    I wish we lived in a world that was perfect. But fact is we don't.
    I guess we can just blame Adam.
    or in your case Eve. Just kidding. [​IMG]
     
  11. Walls

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    Haha! Yet I agree.

    We were members of a church where they split twice. These were some of the godliest people I ever knew but yet when it came right down to it, they could not communicate well when, it came to disagreements. Now a once thriving church is almost nothing today.

    I think Satan is very happy when, we are bickering with each other. It certainly doesn't give God any glory!
     
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    hey walls,
    its easier to live with a watered down bible. It fits my living habits better. Besides its non-confrontational.
     
  13. Forever settled in heaven

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    that's why version-Onlyism, whether for the KJB or the Latin Vulgate or the NWT, is considered by many a heresy, in the etymological sense of that word.

    it's not the multiplicity of bibles that cause divisions; in fact, the intent of the KJB1611 when it was added to the pantheon of bibles in its day was to UNITE the Jacobean kingdom.

    i think it's plum silly to blame today's mess on many bibles--as the simple 5-point questionnaire (posted above) shows, there r OTHER reasons than many bibles that cause church splits.

    perhaps one of them is version-Onlyism! :D ;)
     
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    Watered-down? Non-confrontational?

    That post is just like me saying,

    My students prefer the KJV. It fits their living habits better. If they don't understand it, they don't have to do it.

    Both that paragraph and the one you posted add nothing fruitful to the conversation, and is more KJVO (re:empty) rhetoric.
     
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    Now a once thriving church is almost nothing today.


    "By whose standards?...sometimes it takes a 'sifting' to get to the cream-of-the-crop." ;)
     
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    Funny, I don't see in any of the earlier churches a drastic reduction in membership. Where's the evangelism and the reaching out?
     
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    Some believe it's better to live with only a 400-yr-old Bible. THEY understand it & YOU don't because YOUR English has been "dumbed down" & the other billion English users worldwide are all wrong, and they've LIMITED GOD to THEIR version.
     
  18. Walls

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    Well if you call two people and divorced pastor cream of the crop, then okay! :eek:
     

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