Breaking Story! Its Rove!

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  1. ASLANSPAL

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    This is a breaking story Laurence O'donnel adds
    from his comments from the Maclaughlin Report this
    is an exclusive only from this blog and post! You
    will not get this from Drudge or Michelle Malkin
    or even Fox!

    07.02.2005 Lawrence O'Donnell

    It's Rove...
    I revealed in yesterday's taping of the McLaughlin Group that Time magazine's emails will reveal that Karl Rove was Matt Cooper's source. I have known this for months but didn't want to say it at a time that would risk me getting dragged into the grand jury.

    McLaughlin is seen in some markets on Friday night, so some websites have picked it up, including Drudge, but I don't expect it to have much impact because McLaughlin is not considered a news show and it will be pre-empted in the big markets on Sunday because of tennis.

    Since I revealed the big scoop, I have had it reconfirmed by yet another highly authoritative source. Too many people know this. It should break wide open this week. I know Newsweek is working on an 'It's Rove!' story and will probably break it tomorrow.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/lawrence-odonnell/its-rove_3556.html#comments
     
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    Got this off the same blogger site to bring
    some perspective to this ane also to be fair.


    It seems pretty clear that O'Donnell received his info from Newsweek from the people working on the Newsweek article for the July 11 issue.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8445696/site/newsweek/

    But this article doesn't confirm that Rove was the leaker--it's clear from it that Newsweek doesn't know anything for sure (why would Time tell Newsweek something its reporter was willing to be jailed over?). O'Donnell seems to be making a big jump from the limited facts of this article that Rove is the one who leaked it, but that is a big jump.

    All the article says is that: (1) Rove and Cooper communicated; (2) They communicated before the Novak column (but before Novak told Rove he knew? That's left unsaid); (3) No one knows what they communicated about; (4) Rove's lawyer says he didn't knowingly release any classified material and didn't say that Plame worked for the CIA (which, since he knows that the documents are coming out this week, would be a stupid thing to lie about); (5) Rove has testified and answered every question put to him; (6) some laywers of some Republicans involved in the case say, secondhand, that people in the White House are "concerned".

    It seems that O'Donnell and the Huffington Post are jumping to partisan conclusions that are unwarranted by the facts that we know.

    The unanswered question: Rove signed a waiver allowing reporters to testify concerning their involvement with him--why would someone go to jail for refusing to testify about someone who had signed a waiver allowing them to testify about them?


    Posted by: Jeffrey Jackson at July 2, 2005 07:11 PM
     
  3. KenH

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    Yeah, Mr. O'Donnell who totally lost it last year on television when debating the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth issue. Yeah, like anyone should simply take his word for anything. :rolleyes:

    Maybe he is correct, but it will have to come from a reliable source, certainly not him.
     
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    You can attack O'donnel and that is fine but he
    is a consistently good journalist...I guess you
    have never lost in once KenH on the job..I was
    indignant as well at the junk boat judas's turning on a war hero.

    Anyway back to the topic more news from newsweek,
    Michael Isiakoff , editor and publisher

    O'Donnel is sticking his neck our but he clarified
    and even added to his story with and additional source.

    http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000972841
    This afternoon, Newsweek's Michael Isikoff confirmed that Cooper did indeed talk to Rove for his story, but Rove's lawyer denied he was the key leaker in the case.

    notice the admission by the lawyer Rove as leaker.


    So I already see the spin..rove was not the key
    leaker...well we shall see where this treason
    leads.

    Here is the text of what O'Donnell said on Friday:

    "What we're going to go to now in the next stage, when Matt Cooper's e-mails, within Time Magazine, are handed over to the grand jury--the ultimate revelation, probably within the week of who his source is.

    "I know I'm going to get pulled into the grand jury for saying this but the source of...for Matt Cooper was Karl Rove, and that will be revealed in this document dump that Time magazine's going to do with the grand jury."

    Other McLaughlin Group panelists then joined in discussing whether, if true, this would suggest a perjury rap for Rove, if he told the grand jury he did not leak to Cooper.

    Besides his career at a TV journalist, O'Donnell has served as a producer and writer for the series "The West Wing."

    According to published reports, Patrick Fitzgerald, the special prosecutor in the case, has interviewed President Bush and Vice President Cheney and called Karl Rove, among others, to testify before the grand jury.

    "The breadth of Fitzgerald's inquiry has led to speculation that it has evolved into an investigation of a conspiracy to leak Plame's identity," the Chicago Tribune observed on Friday, "or of an attempt to cover up White House involvement in the leak
     
  5. KenH

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    [​IMG] No wonder the liberals keep losing elections when they have to rely on someone like O'Donnell to carry water for them. [​IMG]
     
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    It doesn't matter who the messenger is, if the message is true. I wouldn't put it past Karl Rove to leak information, he has been caught faking documents and leaking information numerous times in the last 30+ years that he has been winning elections.
     
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    The story may be true but O'Donnell has no credibility. Therefore, it would have to come from a reliable source who doesn't have an ax to grind.
     
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    Rove? Ha ha ha.

    Give me a break. If he's half the booger man the democrats think he is - he wouldn't be dumb enough to be caught like this.
     
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    Oh what a tangled web it weaves

    Lawyer for Rove contacts Post and LA Times

    http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000972855

    Rove talked to Cooper days before Novak outed
    Valerie Plame

    MSNBC political analyst Lawrence O'Donnell and Newsweek's Michael Isikoff had revealed, in recent hours, that Rove's name turned up in the notes Time Inc. turned over to a federal judge on Friday.

    "Cooper has said that more than one confidential source is identified in his e-mails and the notes of interviews he conducted in July 2003," the Post reported.

    Rove answered questions under oath before a grand jury on Oct. 15. According to Luskin, the prosecutor said he believes Rove was candid about his contact with reporters. "I've been assured by the prosecutor they have no reason to doubt the honesty of anything he's said," Luskin said.

    Richard B. Schmitt in the Los Angeles Times reported tonight; "In confirming the conversation between Rove and Cooper, Rove attorney Robert Luskin stressed that the presidential adviser did not reveal any secrets. But the disclosure raised new questions about Rove and the precise role of the White House in the apparent national security breach as Cooper and another reporter, Judith Miller of the New York Times, faced imminent jail terms."
     
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    It does seem to be a stupendously stupid (not to say treacherously disloyal to America) thing to do.

    But someone in the WH did it. You'd need someone who was so inflated with self-importance, it wouldn't matter to him that he was harming America, if that's what it took to get his revenge.

    There might be others like that, but Rove certainly fits the description.

    It doesn't look good for him.
     
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    Was this person undercover when he "outed" her, or are the DEMS grasping for straws. If he did something against the law, then press charges and indict him. If you are not going to do this, I am going to assume that all this is just political empty rhetoric.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    I am amazed that the Left and the extreme Right sound like they want Rove to be hanged without being indicted or having a trial. They are writing as if they are prosecutor, judge, and jury. :rolleyes:
     
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    If he's the culprit, and I seriously doubt that, he will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

    Yet Sandy Berger, who smuggled top secret Documents, and destroyed some of them, didn't even get his hands slapped.
     
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    Everytime the liberals open their collective mouths, the more obvious the double standard becomes! :rolleyes:

    Getting harder and harder for the "grass root" dems to ignore what their party has(is) become(ing)! [​IMG]
     
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    07.03.2005 Lawrence O'Donnell

    Update on Rove
    On Friday, I broke the story that the e-mails that Time turned over to the prosecutor that day reveal that Karl Rove is the source Matt Cooper is protecting. That provoked Rove’s lawyer, Robert Luskin, to interrupt his holiday weekend to do a little defense work with Newsweek and the Los Angeles Times. On Saturday, Luskin decided to reveal that Rove did have at least one conversation with Cooper, but Luskin told the Times he would not “characterize the substance of the conversation.”

    Luskin claimed that the prosecutor “asked us not to talk about what Karl has had to say.” This is highly unlikely. Prosecutors have absolutely no control over what witnesses say when they leave the grand jury room. Rove can tell us word-for-word what he said to the grand jury and would if he thought it would help him. And notice that Luskin just did reveal part of Rove’s grand jury testimony, the fact that he had a conversation with Cooper. Rove would not let me get one day of traction on this story if he could stop me. If what I have reported is not true, if Karl Rove is not Matt Cooper’s source, Rove could prove that instantly by telling us what he told the grand jury. Nothing prevents him from doing that, except a good lawyer who is trying to keep him out of jail.
     
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    Let us know if there is ever a credible source, ASLANSPAL.

    Besides I thought your side didn't trust Drudge.
     
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    Excellent point Hillclimber - interesting double standard the Anti-Bush Crowd has.
     
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    The liberal-left-socialists-communists in this country can't get over the truth that Reagan and Bush brought down their darling Soviet Empire. They will, therefore, go to any extreme to bring down any Republican just as they went to any extreme to protect the Soviet Union.
     
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    Excellent point Hillclimber - interesting double standard the Anti-Bush Crowd has. </font>[/QUOTE]He won't be prosecuted at all, at least not for releasing Plame's name
    He didn't break any law to be prosecuted for in releasing her name..(If he did)
     

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