"[T]his is one of the huge problems with the traditional understanding of hell, because if the Cross is in line with Jesus' teaching, then I won't say the only and I certainly won't say ... or even the primary or a primary meaning of the Cross ... is that the Kingdom of God doesn't come like the kingdoms of this world by inflicting violence and coercing people. But that the kingdom of God comes thru suffering and willing voluntary sacrifice right? But in an ironic way the doctrine of hell basically says no, that's not really true. At the end God get's his way thru coercion and violence and intimidation and uh domination just like every other kingdom does. The Cross isn't the center then, the Cross is almost a distraction and false advertising for God." http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/brianmclaren.htm http://www.understandthetimes.org/mclarentrans.shtml This is the transcript of the interview Brian McClaren had with Leif Hansen. Since when is the Cross "false advertising" for God---and where in Scriptures does it say we are to "advertise" for God? I thought we are to be "witnesses" and preach the Gospel to every creature. (Mark 16:15).