Brzezinski: US must stop following Israel “like a stupid mule”

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And here I thought that stuff only came from the libbies. When I hear cries of racism when asked to defend our foreign policy towards Israel, I have to say it can't be defended.

 

Islam is a religious, political, cultural movement. In its heyday Islam extended from Spain in the West to Indonesia in the East, including part of the Balkans. The Islamic Caliphate controlled much of that region excluding Indonesia and Malaysia. The last Caliphate, the Ottoman Empire, was abolished in 1924 by Mustafa Kemal Atatürk who founded the Republic of Turkey. Islam was an enemy of the Christian Faith and they still are.

In my opinion Islam [which combines both the secular and religious much like the Holy Roman Empire with the Roman Catholic Church] could well be a manifestation of the beast/false prophet of Revelation. That being said I would talk to Islam carefully and would never put down Israel in their presence.

I do no support Israel for any religious reasons. Regardless of what dispensationalists say they are no longer a chosen people of God any more than Muslims are. I support Israel because they are the only democracy in the middle east and they are a thorn in the side of Islam!

 

I don't know which is worse, his unmitigated bias or his blatant ignorance. I am reminded of the scene from Billy Madison where the test proctor says, "...we are all dumber....".

 

Your deductive reasoning may be greatly improved if you first worked on your reading comprehension skills:

"Brzezinski: US must stop following Israel “like a stupid mule”.."

You know like sheep, cattle, goyim, etc; your eschatology expects the U.S. be Israel's "pit bull".

 

I do not think you understand. It is not that he criticizes Israel it is how he does it.

 

I've requested a few times now for you to show the first HATEFUL post that I've ever made towards Israel.

The source of your 'tender feelings' here is the fact that 'Israel after the flesh' is a sacred cow, your Golden Calf, and no one likes to have their idols tarnished.

 

"“I don’t think there is an implicit obligation for the United States to follow like a stupid mule whatever the Israelis do. If they decide to start a war, simply on the assumption that we’ll automatically be drawn into it, I think it is the obligation of friendship to say, ‘you’re not going to be making national decision for us.’ I think that the United States has the right to have its own national security policy.” - Brezinski

So if Israel strikes Iran we should also?

[Edit to add] Brezinski is actually reiterating the findings of a public opinion poll - "US Public to Israel’s Likud: On Iran, Negotiate or you are on Your Own"

"A new poll shows that the US public, showing a broad consensus across parties, wants the Iran nuclear enrichment issue dealt with through negotiations. They even want to entrust the issue to the UN security council. They think that the US should discourage Israel from attacking Iran. They are convinced that an attack would be a disaster and lead to a long-term conflict. And they hold that if Israel goes it alone and does strike Iran, the United States should remain neutral."

IMHO, this was a pertinent factor in Obama's reelection.

 

Israel's best friend is Israel.

 

That is where they differ from the leftists running our country at present. The United States is its own worst enemy under he leadership of the leftist pharaoh Obama.

 

So if Israel strikes Iran we should also?

 

Brzezinski: US must stop following Israel “like a stupid mule” - 11-27-12

Evidently Brzezinski was overtly stating what the Obama adminstration had covertly made known previously:

'Iran must steer clear of US interests in Gulf' - 09-03-12

"The United States has indirectly informed Iran, via two European nations, that it would not back an Israeli strike against the country's nuclear facilities, as long as Tehran refrains from attacking American interests in the Persian Gulf, Yedioth Ahronoth reported Monday.

According to the report, Washington used covert back-channels in Europe to clarify that the US does not intend to back Israel in a strike that may spark a regional conflict."

 

Point me to any formal treaty of alliance between the U.S. and Israel please.

 

Don't need one for it to be true. Whether you hate Jews and Israel or not.

 

From a philosophical viewpoint I believe that Iran has the right to develop nuclear weapons. From a pragmatic viewpoint I believe it will be disastrous. Those fanatic Shia Muslims are ready for that 12th Imam to come out of the well!

Pragmatically I don't this country involved in another war. I think it is too late to keep Iran from building a nuclear bomb.

 

So, there is no legal/politically binding treaty of alliance between the United States and Israel.

 

Thank you, I mostly agree with you.

 

If you've never read the essay THE ISRAEL LOBBY AND U.S. FOREIGN POLICY that I referenced in post #5, you should at the very least do a quick scan of it (44 of it's 83 pages are 'endnotes', of which nearly all come from Jewish sources). This 'underhanded trick', as you call it, is the most potent tool that this foreign entity uses to keep the U.S. Congress firmly in their camp in all matters. To offend 'The Lobby' is to endanger their political careers.

 

>So, there is no legal/politically binding treaty of alliance between the United States and Israel.

So, is there a legal/politically binding treaty of alliance between the United States and Canada, GB, Austrailia, NZ . . . ?