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  1. Ps104_33

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    I saw an interesting bumper sticker on an automobile yesterday. It said this.

    "I AM A CHRISTIAN AND A DEMOCRAT"

    What do you think is the point being made here?
     
  2. Debby in Philly

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    The point? That many in the Church these days seem to think that if you are a Bible-believing Christian and an "evangelical," then you must of course be a Republican.

    The user of the sticker wished to point out that he/she did not want to be lumped into that stereotype.

    I, too, am a registered Democrat. It's the only way I can have a voice in my city's Democratic chokehold by being allowed to vote in Democratic primaries.

    Besides, with the very important exception of my pro-life position, I tend to lean toward the Dems in other matters.
     
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    I think the above poster was right on.

    We have taken evangelical Christianity and suggested that in order to be a proper and thorough-going evangelical you must have a Republican card in your wallet.

    That is completely not what it means to be an evangelical Christian.

    I'm not affiliated with any political party anymore, particularly since the current President has made it clear he is neither conservative nor awfully concerned with the Founders' vision of this country. I don't believe I must be a Republican or Democrat. I find mighty faults with both parties. The reality the current course of both parties is not in line with my particular beliefs. I will probably end up voting third party in the next election.

    The worst thing that ever happens to Christianity is when it is joined with nationalism and anyone who questions the blending of the two is immediately branded a dissenter beyond reason. This has happened before and is happening today. Nationalism and Christianity should never meet...they should be separate.
     
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    That he/she voted for Carter back in 1976.
     
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    I know of many registered Democrats who are members of Primitive Baptist churches. We have one here on this board.

    I got some exciting news last week. I'm no longer an RNC member. They kicked me out or not paying my dues this year. I wrote them many months back and told them why I would not be sending anymore money to them. It had to do with their support of liberal Reublicans over conservative Republicans and their support of big government spending by Republicans.

    Evidently they didn't read my letter or else they wouldn't have continued to send "request for payment" letters to me.

    For the first time in my voting life, I'm officially unaffiliated.:applause:

    Frankly, at this point, I'd be ashamed to have on my car either an "I am a Democrat and a Christian" or an "I am a Republican and a Christian" bumper sticker.

    Both parties, with the exception of a few Representatives on both sides, have left any kind of Christian values by the wayside.
     
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    I have become disenchanted with those who want to involve churches with political movements. We ought to know by now that sooner or later they'll disappoint us.

    We've been seduced by the battle cry, "let's take this country back for Christ."

    We Christians have to come to grips with the reality that we are a minority of a minority in this country and around the world. When this country, or any other, returns to Christ, it will have been Christ who took it back. Not us.
     
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    In 100% total agreement. The very premise of this thread, the opening post, implies an agenda for the Republican Party, an odd admiration of some sort.

    One of the posters above said he would be ashamed to have the bumper sticker with either party. That is the total truth.

    How can a Christian, who claims by faith the righteousness of Christ, dare to compare either political party next to such a perfect standard.

    Both parties, equally share the qualities of greed, piggery, self indulgence, self centeredness, an insatiable appetite for power, and a total disregard for what is best for the American people. I would say these qualities are exactly the opposite of a Holy God. If you could put a cow chip on the scale, it would come closer than either party or the special interests and politicians that run them.

    This is a forum for Holy things. Moderators, please move this thread to where it belongs, in the political forum.
     
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    I agree, most politicians gives me the creeps.
     
  9. preachinjesus

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    wow, seemed like a nice post then...

    wow, can we get some grace here? this is a general convo place, and from the conversations I seen here it is anything but holy. I really don't care if this gets moved, but gravy man tender your words please...:)
     
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    Really sorry about the words pig sty. I did edit them out in deference to the high moral standing of politicians.
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    God is not spelled G-O-P.
     
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    God is neither a Democrat nor a Republican.
     
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    While neither party is completely "right", I believe the Republicans have the higher ground (if one had to choose only between these 2), since at least they don't have homosexuality and abortion on their official platform.

    How a Christian could be a Democrat, with their support these things, is beyond my comprehension.
    Of course, the Republicans aren't much better. They are selling us out constantly now.

    My verdict? Republicans win by a split decision. Nothing here to be proud of.


    Awaiting a good candidate with morals and character but not holding my breath!

    SB
     
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    I don't. But I do have a Blockbuster card, a Mastercard, and a Walmart card. :saint:
     
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    That is a post at least honest and to be respected.
     
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    I have to disagree, neither party is a winner, even by "split decision". Saturneptune was right in his answer to this thread.

    Both parties are bad, not just kinda bad, or more or less bad, they are bad. Corrupt to the core, and neither of them represent Christians.

    This thread was started, only to stir the ever bigger pot than is helping to divide Christians instead of helping them come closer together in my opinion.

    In the end, unless we stand for real change, no one wins.

    Jamie
     
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    IMO, there are two points made here:
    1. Democrats are Christians too.
    2. My politics are subordinate to my faith.

    Regards,
    BiR
     
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    This sounds like you are one of the two-issue voters. A few points:
    1. I used to be active in the GOP. I personally know several homosexual Republicans, and there are quite a few in the party. Do a google search on "log cabin republicans."

    2. The GOP does not have the high ground with respect to abortion. For most of the time since Roe v. Wade, the GOP has been in control. Despite all this control, abortion is still legal in the US. As a matter of fact, abortion is not even really discussed now, is it? That is simply a rallying issue to shore up the two-issue-voter bloc for the GOP. Undoubtedly, it will become an issue next year, as it is an election year and they will need those votes again.

    Regards,
    BiR
     
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    What do they mean by "Christian"? Whenever I see anyone say "I am a Christian" it doesn't matter what follows it, I want to know what they mean.

    By and large, the moral foundation of the Democratic party is antithetical to Christian values, particularly in matters of life. (The same is true of many things in the Republican party but the stated moral foundation is better though they do not live by it.
     
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    You are a pastor yet you don't understand? It's kind of like a machinist not knowing what metal is, isn't it? I mean come on Larry, even you know the basics, right?

    Spoken like a true Republican. :laugh:
     

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