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Bush breaks with GOP on same-sex unions

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  1. JGrubbs

    JGrubbs New Member

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    Washington, DC, Oct. 26 (UPI) -- President Bush broke with the Republican Party platform in supporting states' rights to permit same-sex civil unions.

    "I don't think we should deny people rights to a civil union, a legal arrangement, if that's what a state chooses to do so. ...

    "I view the definition of marriage different from legal arrangements that enable people to have rights. And I strongly believe that marriage ought to be defined as between a union between a man and a woman.

    "Now, having said that, states ought to be able to have the right to pass laws that enable people to be able to have rights like others," Bush told ABC's Charlie Gibson in an interview broadcast Tuesday on "Good Morning America."

    "So the Republican platform on that point, as far as you're concerned, is wrong?" Gibson asked the president, to which Bush replied: "Right."

    Source: The Washington Times
     
    #1 JGrubbs, Oct 27, 2004
  2. Monergist

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    Sad. And disturbing.
     
    #2 Monergist, Oct 27, 2004
  3. Pennsylvania Jim

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    Sure. But he goes for the liberal votes, and takes Christians for suckers, figuring they'll vote for him anyway. He's probably right, unfortunately.

    And we wonder why America is going down the tubes.
     
    #3 Pennsylvania Jim, Oct 27, 2004
  4. LorrieGrace

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    SIGH!!!!!!!!
     
    #4 LorrieGrace, Oct 27, 2004
  5. The Galatian

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    Cynical, but effective. The religious right will line up and vote as they are told.
     
    #5 The Galatian, Oct 28, 2004
  6. Elnora

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    I'm shocked! :eek:

    NOT! :rolleyes:
     
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  7. Pennsylvania Jim

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    Where are the Bush supporters? I guess they are deluding themselves that this doesn't matter.
     
    #7 Pennsylvania Jim, Oct 28, 2004
  8. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Oh, what a surprise!
     
    #8 NaasPreacher (C4K), Oct 28, 2004
  9. Pennsylvania Jim

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    Aren't you glad you didn't vote for him?
     
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    SOURCE
     
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  11. Pennsylvania Jim

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    ...As the Bush supporters continue to harangue Kerry for being a liberal...
     
    #11 Pennsylvania Jim, Oct 28, 2004
  12. The Galatian

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    Wouldn't you like to have a tape of Karl Rove's face when he saw that one?

    "No, no, you idiot! AFTER the election! AFTER the election!"
     
    #12 The Galatian, Oct 28, 2004
  13. leesw

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    This is really being blown out of proportion. Bush has always supported a legal union of homosexuals but opposed "marriage" for them. They'd have to have some kind of legal "union" for insurance purposes, tax, home ownership, etc. There is no way around it. In fact, someone can be in a legal/civil union with someone and not be a homosexual. Two roomates can have them. Calm down. Bush is still the man. He opposes homosexual adoption and marriage--those are the issues concerning the homosexual agenda. He hasn't changed his stance.

    Lee
     
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  14. Pennsylvania Jim

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    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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  15. Pennsylvania Jim

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    As Lee points out, though, Bush has little to worry about from the Christian community, so it's a smart political move to pull some votes from the homosexual crowd.
     
    #15 Pennsylvania Jim, Oct 28, 2004
  16. JGrubbs

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  17. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Exactly - with the "lesser of two evils" philosophy he could endorse homosexual marriage and still get the vote.
     
    #17 NaasPreacher (C4K), Nov 1, 2004
  18. Pennsylvania Jim

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    Sure. It'll probably happen in the next presidential election cycle. Christians have given the GOP little incentive to hold their values. The liberals are at least smart enough to demand action in return for their vote. That's why they are winning, and why our government is driving our nation down the tubes.
     
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    So what's the problem? He's saying that marriage should be defined at the federal level, but that states have the right to decide the issue of private civil unions.

    I guess we're all for "states rights", unless it's during a presidential campaign????
     
    #19 Johnv, Nov 1, 2004
  20. The Galatian

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    That's not what the GOP was selling to the evangelicals about Bush, was it?
     
    #20 The Galatian, Nov 1, 2004
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