Bush unworthy of the Christian vote

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  1. RRHeustisJr

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    Bush Unworthy of the Christian Vote
    By: Reed R. Heustis, Jr.
    October 29, AD 2004


    I couldn't believe my own ears when I heard it myself.

    Goosebumps riddled my body, and my blood curdled.

    Earlier this week on ABC News, our "Christian" President George W. Bush proclaimed in front of a national audience that Christians and Muslims worship "the same god". (To see and view the interview online, please visit: http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/elections/article.adp?id=20041026095909990008 )

    Bush also said that Muslims and non-Christians both go to heaven because "we have different routes of getting there."

    These statements are utter rejections of the Truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

    Said Christ, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." (John 14:6) No genuine Christian would ever proclaim that Muslims and Christians worship the same deity.

    The Book of John says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." (John 1:1-3)

    This is a clear reference to the Creator God. Later in the same chapter it is revealed, "the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us," which is a reference to the Creator God taking on human shape in the form of Jesus Christ.

    This begs the question, If Muslims worship the same "Creator God", then how can Muslims logically reject Christ's deity?

    It just cannot be said by any stretch of the imagination, unless you're a President attempting to bamboozle Christian voters yet again, that Muslims and Christians worship the same god.

    Mere disagreements on peripheral issues are acceptable. Some Christians believe in infant baptism, while others do not. Many differ in their views of "end times" theology. Some embrace "charismatic" means of worship, while others abide by regulative principles. These issues and others are non-essential in that honest disagreements may occur even amongst saved Bible-believing Christians.

    However, essential Christian doctrine can never be compromised!

    The deity of Jesus Christ is essential, and President Bush not only compromised on this doctrine, but he embraced the demonic view of Universalism, the false belief that all roads lead to God.

    He used the bully pulpit of the Presidency to poison the minds of millions into believing a lie that rises out of the pit of hell itself.

    Logically, if it were true that "all roads lead to God," then the crucifixion and sacrifice of Jesus Christ on Calvary for the sins of many are rendered totally and completely meaningless.

    Why should it matter that Christ paid for people's sins when people can still achieve heaven simply by embracing Allah of the Koran or some other make-believe deity?

    It is unfortunate that Christians once again will be led to the slaughter by casting their votes for President Bush's re-election campaign.

    It is also unfortunate that many "Christian" organizations, such as the Christian Coalition, are doing the leading.

    Many of these organizations intentionally black out any mention of any superior candidate because of their fear of electing a Democrat. Recently, the Christian Coalition published its "Voter Guide" which only presented two choices: Bush and Democrat John Kerry. As expected, the Coalition's choice of issues were framed in such a way to lead any reasonable, yet politically naive Christian voter, into believing that Bush is somehow "our man".

    The Constitution Party Presidential nominee, Michael A. Peroutka, who appears on enough state ballots to achieve a majority of electoral votes, represents a party that proclaims the Kingship of Jesus Christ in its Platform. Peroutka also never hesitates to advance biblical principles in governance and a return to solid constitutional government. Yet, these false opposition organizations such as the Christian Coalition black his name out so that Bush is the only one that appears to be in favor of biblical principles.

    This is deception at its finest.

    The Christian Coalition touts itself as an "educational" organization intended to educate Christians on the issues and elections of the day, but it deliberately ignores the existence of candidates like Peroutka. In so doing, these organizations mislead millions of Christians into believing that President Bush and the Republican Party have their interests in mind. (For a full expose on this story, please see: http://www.peroutka2004.com/schedule/index.php?action=eventview&event_id=534 )

    Supreme Court Chief Justice John Jay, who contributed five essays to the Federalist Papers and who was a tremendous influence on the framing of the Constitution, once said, "Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation, to select and prefer Christians for their rulers."

    It is the duty of Christians to select and prefer a Christian President.

    Is Bush a Christian?

    Would a Christian ever embrace Universalism?

    The only way to restore our nation to biblical principles is to support candidates and parties that proclaim that mission as their goal.

    Bush has already revealed his opposition to that goal.

    © AD 2004 The Heustis Update, accessible on the web at http://www.reedheustis.com . All Rights Reserved.

    *edited only to correct "screaming" post title. Internet etiquette: All caps is the same as yelling, and should not be used on message board topics as a general courtesy to other posters.*

    [ October 31, 2004, 02:18 PM: Message edited by: Gina L ]
     
  2. foxrev

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    Wacky, just wacky! Just because a man is Christian, does not necessarily make him a good President. George Bush has proven he alone is more than is worthy of the Christian vote. You will never have what you are seeking in a President until the Millenium!
     
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    A bit dramatic, (not new news and I cringe when people question if others are Christians when they disagree with their politics) but the point was clearly made and is one that I agree with.
    People need to look at ALL the candidates before throwing their support behind any single party.
    Gina
     
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    I have looked at all the candidates and have deemed President Bush to be worthy of my vote as a Christian. I could not say the same about Peroutka. I don't vote for a party, but for the candidate.

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    If you don't like President Bush who has a faith in the true God, though he might not be a student of the Word, then vote for Catholic Kerry, who does not oppose Partial Birth Abortion Ban; the Defense of Marriage Act; nor does he prohibit the Distributing Morning After Pills To Children in Schools; Unborn Victims of Violence Act; Expanded Child Tax Credit; Parental Notification {of minor daughters abortion}; nor does he oppose the Prohibit Taxpayer Funding of Abortions; nor will he support the Appointment of Pro-Life Judges.

    If you don't vote for President Bush you will be voting for Mr. Jane Fonda/Senator Kerry, who's portrait is in the War Museum in North Vietnam because he sided with the Communists while our soldiers were being killed and persecuted while he fraternized with the North Vietnamese.
    I, for one, hope that he never has to 'Report for duty,' as this 'pinko' would like to do on the merit American and American Christian's vote.
     
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    The Bush family has never had an A student in theology in the family. It is their great weakness. As politicians they like to pop off about religious matters.

    The fact that Bush is a Sunday School dropout on theology does not make him a bad choice for the Christian vote. There are, unfortunately, many Christians who do not know doctrine or theology. Look at all the pre-tribulation rapture types in the Peroutka crowd, for example. One could say that they are naive to hold such a johnny-come-lately Pentacostal doctrine, couldn't one? Where is Darby now that you really need him?
     
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    Interestingly enough,

    I have found that when one begins debating the idea that the CP is Christian or moral, they never want to debate from a Biblical POV, but a Constitutional POV. IMO, they tend to hold the Constitution above the Bible. That is one major problem I have with them.

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    That and the fact that they accuse the President of conducting an illegal war and the troops of fighting an illegal war. We could have war crime trials forever if the CP had their way. Never mind the fact that the Constitution gives the President the power to wage war, they do not want to challenge in a federal court. They want to march on the White House and then begin the trials.
     
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    You're right, being a sunday school drop out doesn't make him a bad choice for a Christian president. No, being a member of the skull and bones makes him a bad choice for President. The skull and bones is NOT Christian, and both Kerry and Bush are members.

    Think about it,
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    And how has he proven that? By his strident advancement of the gay rights agenda? Or maybe by the huge budget increases for Planned Parenthood and other abortion providers? No, Joseph wants to argue Biblically - Bush must have proven that by denying that Christ is the only way to heaven. Christians and their blind allegiance to the Republican party - Like lambs to the slaughter. :(
     
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    Skull and Bones is just a rich-man's country club at Yale where the bluest bloods and the brightest minds are selected. It is more silly than threatening.

    As for Christians are blind to vote GOP, what other choice is there? The Dems are pro-choice and Kerry says that gays are born that way. The CP is looney about the war as illegal and wanting to pull out of Iraq right away. The CP is also against the Federal Marriage Amendment to protect marriage as one man and one woman so that some Judge cannot impose same-sex marriage on the whole country as some Judges did in Massachusetts.
     
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    Don't care about skull and bones. Next topic.

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    Hey everyone,

    I don't particularly care for President Bush, but Senator Kerry is not a viable alternative.

    The next President will appoint the anywhere from one to four Supreme Court justices. Where do you want this country going? Left wing insanity or more conservative? Thats what we are voting on. Viva la Bush, even if he is not a Christian.
     
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    In the 1960's our Christian educators for ministry told us that the Communists would infiltrate our universities and would have their people in high positions in government, business, and other fields of endeavor. My wife works at Lehigh University and 99 44/100 % of the professors and administrators have no problem with voting for Jane Fonda or John Kerry. Let's hope that Christians will get out and vote for the only candidate who will oppose 'partial birth abortions' and will remain strong against terrorism wherever it is found; and not like the senator who hopes that he can just keep them from being 'a nuisance.' Were not the Twin Towers, centers of our financial vitality more than just 'a nuisance?' The Muslims started their trouble in the 'big Apple,' the symbolism of our financial strength and of our Christian and American way of life.

    Check out what the people at your universities nearest to you are doing by way of voting and then stand for our Judeo-Christian faiths and keep this far left Communist out of our nation's capitol; this man who voted against all of our defense systems, planes and missiles. Are you getting the picture?

    Mr. Kerry will be a president of appeasement and 'cut and run.'
     
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    Ray, we don't ever agree in the Calvinism/Arminian Debate Forum but on this we are in full agreement. [​IMG]
     
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    You are wrong. I know many democrats who are pro life, and there are republicans who also happen to be gay. That you would generalise to that extent is frightening. Do you really think that all conservatives are heterosexuals? What about Mary Cheney, who is a lesbian and a republican, then?

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    But we can't talk about Mary Cheney and the fact that her dad supports gay marriage because we're Christians and we don't want to be confused with the facts. We all know the Republican party is the hope for America regardless of where they stand. :rolleyes:
     
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    Sez who?

    My take is that the R's will just give us more time to have a real revival in this country, and return to God, before judgement is pronounced by God.
    (A small reprieve , if you will; not salvation)

    We may be too far gone already, but if not, the best the R's can do is delay God's judgement & hopefully have the Christians in this country rise up and fight all the evil instead of just turning the other cheek.

    If the D's get in, excluding a merciful miracle from God, we're doomed! JMHO of course!!
     
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    Why would you think that?
     

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