Bush will veto anti-torture law after Senate revolt

'zactly.

 

Apples and oranges, Poncho.

 

No I don't.

But I would think someone would refuse to obey an unlawful order or just refuse to take part and /or report it to his commanding officer right on up the chain until he reaches one that takes action.

BTW I agreed with Michael New's stance and admire him greatly for his actions. But it was a "lawful" order.

Ordering prisoner abuse is not.

 

Again, utter foolishness. I asked you to show me where I ever accused you of saying that, now I am demanding it. Show me where I wrote what you claim, or apologize. If you are going to claim I wrote something, you had better be ready to prove your claim. Come on, SeekingTruth, your credibility is at stake.

Where did I say this? Again, this is a question of credibility.

I have already shown this to be the case with respect to your comments regarding humiliation. You reiterated this not once, but twice after you replied.

And yes, I am a LIBERAL. Everyone who exchanges thoughts/ideas with me knows this, so thank you for once again stating what everybody already knows.

I am okay with that, and would have been had you left it at that. But you didn't.

How convenient it is for you to make unsubstantiated comments and run for cover. One more time, I asked you to show me where I wrote what you claim, and now I am demanding it. Back up that which you claim. Otherwise, exhibit some maturity and admit that you were mistaken. I will even leave it at that. If you do neither, then you have shown us the depth of your credibility.

Hey: you wrote it - back it up.
BiR

 

Even funnier is how some tried and were rebuffed.

And it appears some of them are not. I wonder what their penalty will be?

Evidently not.

 

This is one of the posts you say I have said that the end justifies the means.

Now BiR, your credibility is at stake. You did accuse me. You made several personal attacks on me in this thread. I show you where you accuse me. Now apologize. Actually I don't care whether you apologize or not. I will consider the source from whence your insuts came, and ignore them. Take you best shot, self admitted liberal. As to your " demand " that I apologize to you for claiming you said something (which by the way I have demonstrated you did) you have neither the credibility nor the moral right to demand anything of me.

Maturity? You ask that I demonstrate maturity? You wouldn't know maturity if it ran into you.

Yeah I wrote it, and I have backed up and given you the lie.

 

Actually, you have done this not once, not twice, but three different times, and I have already demonstrated that. But you said that I accused you of condoning torture. I couldn't help but notice that you forgot to address that point.....

I don't need to look any further than your own words, SeekingTruth. It is right there: the ends justify the means. As a matter of fact, you even wrote it again.
I pointed out that you have implied that the ends justify the means.
Interesting that you felt compelled to post twice to me. Like I said: you didn't have to add anything further.
</font>[/QUOTE]</font>[/QUOTE]Thank you for showing that I never wrote what you claim. I didn't say anything about "torture," did I? I NEVER said that you said "torture," and you have confirmed this by reposting what I said. "Torture" is YOUR word, not mine. Like I said, utter foolishness. Again, you need to read what I write, and think about what you are going to post before you hit the "add reply" button.

Abject fatuity, even when posted in perpetuity, remains nothing more than abject fatuity.

Actually, you have shown everyone reading with us that I never did anything of the sort. Thanks for reinforcing my point.

Again, utter foolishness.

Here's a tip: if you are going to accuse me of something, make sure that you check your spelling before you hit that "add reply" button.

That's right, SeekingTruth: I am a LIBERAL. Again, thanks for telling me what I already knew.

Oops, there goes your credibility.
As I have shown, and you have reiterated, I never did that of which you accuse me. Amazing that you are so brazen in your disregard for the facts. You have demonstrated that you are ignoring the truth, despite, as your moniker seemingly claims, you are evidently seeking it.

You most certainly demonstrated your maturity with this one, didn't you?

Nope, not even close. As a matter of fact, you reiterated my point. Thanks for doing that for me.

BiR