But a body hast thou prepared me !

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    Heb 10:4-5

    Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

    Even though this Body was of Flesh and Blood like other men, sin excepted, and though it was subject to sinless infirmities such as growing weary, receiving bruising, yet it was a specially prepared Body, to bear the agony and sins of all those He represented, so it is written 1 Pet 2:24

    24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

    This specially prepared or fitted body was not from Mary nor Joseph, but this was a Body that was to bear iniquity, the iniquity of the world of God's Elect, a Number that no man can number. This was not an ordinary Body but one fitted, framed, equipped especially for Christ and His task in doing the will of the Lord God Heb 10:4-7

    For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

    5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

    6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.

    7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

    It was body of above natural strength, for Christ's Body Strength would have greatly exceeded that of 100 Sampson's put together, for the scripture says of Him Ps 89:19

    Then thou spakest in vision to thy holy one, and saidst, I have laid help upon one that is mighty; I have exalted one chosen out of the people.

    This describes Him in His Character as the Man Jesus Christ as Mediator and sin bearer, for He did not bear sin upon His Deity ! That this weight of sin had physical consequences unto Him can be seen by His reaction here in the garden Lk 22:41-44

    I believe the agony and mental anguish Christ experienced here would have given the normal flesh and blood a mental collapse ! And this was a mere foretaste of the suffering yet to come when the Father would forsake Him with the Sins of the Elect World being punished in Him ! And yet, He was able to utter, it is finished !
     
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    You just denied his humanity!

    jesus was God the Son, came to earth thru mary Hismother, and from her rereceived his humanity/human nature, to go with his divinity!
     
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    Genesis 3:15
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    15 And I will put enmity
    Between you and the woman,
    And between your seed and her seed;
    He shall [a]bruise you on the head,
    And you shall bruise him on the heel.”


    Acts 2:29 “Brethren, I may confidently say to you regarding the patriarch David that he both died and was buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. 30 And so, because he was a prophet and knew that God had sworn to him with an oath to seat one of his descendants on his throne, 31 he looked ahead and spoke of the resurrection of the Christ....

    Jesus was Mary's biological son. Do you want to deny scripture?
     
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    No matter what outrageous thing it posts you should not feed it.
     
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    No She was not ! Not in the sense as She was to her children with Joseph. Do you deny that ?
     
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    Also none of Mary's other children were given a body by God the Father to bear the sins of many in their body ! 1 Pet 2:24

    Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

    This Body did not come from mary's biological substance, not from her egg, and not a drop of her blood. She was merely a vessel chosen to this honor !
     
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    mary was his mother, as she conceived him in her womb, and gave him his humanity!

    in the womb was a being with BOTH Divine/human natures, one from Mary, other from God!
     
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    The father of Mary's other children was Joseph. The Father of Jesus was God the Holy Spirit. But Mary was still His mother in the flesh. Scripture bears this out.
     
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    isn't God the father jesus daddy though?

    As the Son derives from the father, and the Spirit proceeds from Both of them?
     
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    I was referring to Matthew 1:18.

    18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: when His mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, before they came together she was found to be with child by the Holy Spirit.
     
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    I Know, was just "jousing you!"
     
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    Jesus was not Mary's Biological Son, her other children were. Jesus was a child of the Holy Ghost placed in her ! Matt 1:18

    Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
     
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    How do you explain this verse?

    Acts 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

    If Christ was not of the "flesh" of David, then God broke His oath.
     
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    You explain them, you brought them into the debate ! I am not here to do your work ! But I know this is True:

    Jesus was not Mary's Biological Son, her other children were. Jesus was a child of the Holy Ghost placed in her ! Matt 1:18

    Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

    The Child was not from Mary biologically, but placed in her out of the Holy Ghost !

    The word of is the prep ek and means:

    out of, from, by, away from

    A primary preposition denoting origin (the point whence action or motion proceeds), from, out (of place, time, or cause; literal or figurative

    Now, you can keep thinking that Jesus is Mary's Biological son, but you have not one shred of scripture to back it up. You just believe a fable !
     
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    I did my work. I posted the scripture that clearly says Jesus Christ is of the "flesh" of David. What part of that do you not understand? Do you know what flesh is?

    If Jesus was simply "placed" in Mary's womb, He could NOT be of David's FLESH, could He? He was of David's flesh because Mary was a genetic descendant of David.
     
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    Then why bring things to the debate and tell me to explain them ? You explain what you bring, and I will explain what I bring.

    Now I have explained that Jesus Christ was not a Child of Mary biologically and from her egg. His origin on how he got into here is plainly revealed here Matt 1:18

    18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

    How could she be Jesus bilogical mother whe She had not even came together with her husband biologically ?

    You are just deceived !

    He wasn't literally, but he came out of one who was, Mary ! That fulfills the prophecy. I have explained this once before in another thread:

    http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=77206
     
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    Then you are denying the hypostatic union (Jesus was both fully God and fully man) - a concept believed by all of Christendom for 2,000 years. However, there were heretics who held to various flavors of your position. The one that comes to mind is:

    Arianism: Arianism is named after Arius (c. 250 - c. 336), a priest in Alexandria. This is considered the most serious heresy. Jesus Christ was thought of as a special creation by God for man's salvation. Arianism was the form of Christianity that the Goths adhered to, and it was popular in all the areas they conquered, including Italy, Spain, and Africa.

    http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/heresies.html

    Now I'm not calling you a heretic, but your statements sure seem to parallel Arianism.

    WM
     
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    I am not denying that I believe that ! I am denying that Mary was Christ's Biological mother. The child in her was not produced by any of her natural biology, but it was placed into Her out of the Holy Ghost ! Matt 1:18

    18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

    Now, Mary's children by Joseph after they did finally come together, those were Mary's biological children, but not Jesus Christ !

    A Man does not have to be biologically from a women to be a Man. Was Adam a Man or No ? Was He born out of a women or Not ? Jesus Christ is the last Adam !
     
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    was your jesus fully BOTh God and man? Where did he get his human nature from, as God cannot produce that, as He would be source of God nature?
     
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    Romans 1:3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

    Galatians 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,


    sbm, you are spouting pure heresy.
     

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