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  1. Deacon

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    PILLS NOT THE ANSWER TO OBESITY, SAYS TOP DOCTOR
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    This is one of those cases when I could point at you and say “you’re fat” and have to remember that I have the other four fingers pointing at me.
    At 210 lbs, I’m overweight (fat).

    At one time the seven deadly sins were preached:

    Lust, Gluttony, Greed, Sloth, Wrath, Envy, and Pride
    Are those times are past?

    I can remember sermons on just about every one of those, EXCEPT gluttony!

    Why should it be addressed only by the medical community?
    Over-indulgence is a spiritual condition that should also be addressed in the local church.

    Rob
     
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    I liked one of the comments to the story. Doctors should stop treating people who get in car accidents and just tell them they should have been driving more carefully. ;)
     
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    Hi Rob.

    I have heard it explained before in a sermon that gluttony is not simply the idea of eating too much (which is what most people think of in terms of this word), but in a Scriptural sense it is taking so that no one else can have any.

    And gluttony applies to more than just food.

    By the way overweight people are not just people that eat more than they should. There are many more factors that go into that equation and I speak from experience one just need look at my website to see that.

    However there are MANY times throughout the week that I will only eat one meal a day. That's hardly what I would call glutton-like.

    Should we speak out about gluttony absolutely. But again I think this has a whole lot more to do with eating two hamburgers instead of just one or eating five hotdogs instead of two.
     
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    One meal a day can, and often does lead to obesity. One should eat 5 or 6 times a day, 3 balanced meals, and fruits & grains as snacks. With one meal a day, your body will store fat, in anticipation of not eating. Smart, responsible eating is necessary for a healthy body. And drinking lots & lots of water.

    But I do agree with you, gluttony is more like hording.
     
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    To God sin is sin. We as humans put sin on a scale from worst to least. While gluttony does include more than food, it does include food. Look at our pot lucks, and how we ignore the over indulgence compared to other things.

    Gossip and gluttony seem to have taken on a status out of the sin catagory into the acceptable. Maybe that is why very little is said about them.
     
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    Well gluttony as relates to food is something that really isn't hard and fast. I think it's pretty easy to spot gossip, but how does one spot gluttony? Pretty hard to do if you ask me, especially when you take stereotypes out of the picture.

    Exactly. I'm living proof of it! :) :(

    This is very true, however eating right is extremely difficult to do when you have a family and you're the only one that wants to do it. That's not to say it can't be done, but it makes the fight even that much harder.
     
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    Yup. I usually bring an apple and a bag of crackers & peanut butter (natural, of course) for those long hours at work. For breakfast, usually a banana & some toast. Phyllis likes her hot oatmeal, I can't stand it.
     
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    Thank you for a rational post on this subject. I, for one, have heard far TOO many sermons on the sin of gluttony. None of them addressed the heart, only a person's size. Assuming one is guilty of gluttony simply by their waistline is a very grave error.

    Gluttony can present itself in many different ways, not just overeating. A lack of self-control is evident when one loses their temper easily or hoards money or possesions, too.
     
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    I think that can be said to various degrees about all seven.
     
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    The thing with the 7 sins is that they are not, as someone said cut and dried.
    I think that has led to the decline in proper preaching against them.
    It sounds like most preaching against them are against the symptoms and not the sins.
     
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    I weighed 210 lbs once....in the fourth grade.

    My first principle of dieting is....don't take dieting advice from someone fatter than you are.:smilewinkgrin:
    peace to you:praying:
     
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    Some people can be so rude...
    We were eating at Applebees today in Harrisonburg VA (which BTW, I have only been to once... today... and the people in that town are very rude)

    Anyway, a woman with her two kids came in and set down beside us, and one of the little girls kept saying, "look mommy, fat people" and pointing at me and my wife..

    The mommy's response.... "Yes honey, I know"

    UGGGG!!!

    If that would have been my kid, I would have explained that her actions were rude...

    but NOOO....

    Now I don't blame the kid... at her age, probably 4, she is just developing a sense of relationship... you know... big, small, bigger, smaller... a 20 oz bottle is smaller than a 2 liter, etc...

    But the mother was rude...
    As a matter of fact, I met some other rude people today in Harrisonburg...

    So now, I am going to bed in a little bit, and thank God I live in Almost Heaven WV!!!! Where we have some common courtesy!


    whew... I needed to vent!
     
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    You should have pointed to their family and said to your wife, "Look, honey! Rude people!"
     
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    Now, Now... we have to be Christ like...

    I just gave her (the mother) a look like what I imagine Christ gave Peter after Peter denied Him...

    Eyes that can slice right through a person!
     
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    You are right Tim (the Christlike part -- not the flying daggers), but you gotta admit that Nick's post madeya chuckle just a bit.

    I'm sorry you ran into such rude people. Unfortunately they abound (and procreate).
     
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    Hey Mike, I know it's sinful, but it's not my fault. It's our pastor's fault. He's always scheduling fellowship meals, ice cream after church, fish fries. You and I know that there's always more food than necessary, and you know how I hate to see food go to waste.

    I have finally figured out how to pig out without sinning. Just stop short of that familiar miserable bloated feeling. You're looking for that pleasant, satisfied feeling. Once you figure out where that line is, you've got it made. And if you do accidentally cross the line into sin, you can always blame preacher.
     
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    You're right I did chuckle...

    And if my youngest son would have been there... whoa...
    He would have went off...
     
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    Okay, then point to them and say to your wife, "Look, honey! Verily, verily, I tell you I see rude people! For it is not what goes into a man that defiles him, but what comes out!"
     
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    :laugh: :laugh:

    You forgot..."He that hath and ear, let him hear... and he that hath a mouth, let him eat!"
     

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