The other morning the preacher quoted this: Mar 9:38 And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us. Mar 9:39 But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. Mar 9:40 For he that is not against us is on our part. Y'all know this is eventually gonna head toward my universalist leanings right? Just wait for it. I've something different in mind first as indicated by thread title. I have to tell you that I thought the non-Baptist preacher I was listening to had misread the scripture. I didn't believe what I was hearing because it simply isn't the idea I've had preached to me in the past. What I've heard is: "If you aren't for God, you're against him." And the scripture so used? I'd love to know because I can't find it. I've thought it all my life but I can't find (or remember) the foundation for that idea. That is where I want to start. Where do we get the idea that all who aren't explicitly for God are against Him?