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CAFTA Debate & Vote Tonight

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by KenH, Jul 27, 2005.

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  1. JGrubbs

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    Since the adoption of the 1934 Trade Agreements Act, the United States government has engaged in a free trade policy which has destroyed or endangered important segments of our domestic agriculture and industry, undercut the wages of our working men and women, and totally destroyed or shipped abroad the jobs of hundreds of thousands of workers. This free trade policy is being used to foster socialism in America through welfare and subsidy programs.
     
    #21 JGrubbs, Jul 27, 2005
  2. KenH

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    Leviathan is no friend to the working man.
     
    #22 KenH, Jul 27, 2005
  3. JGrubbs

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    The 15 minute vote is going on one hour now!
     
    #23 JGrubbs, Jul 27, 2005
  4. KenH

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    Looks like the Establishment is trying to twist some arms like they did to get the Medicare prescription drug bill passed.

    Does passage of CAFTA require a majority of the House members(434 with one vacancy) or will a plurality do?
     
    #24 KenH, Jul 27, 2005
  5. KenH

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    At the moment, Leviathan - 216, the people - 211, 7 Republicans left.
     
    #25 KenH, Jul 27, 2005
  6. JGrubbs

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    Yea - 216
    Nay - 211

    7 GOP left
     
    #26 JGrubbs, Jul 27, 2005
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    Yea - 217
    Nay - 215

    The bill passed :(
     
    #27 JGrubbs, Jul 27, 2005
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    Two GOP Reps didn't vote, if they were leaning to voting Nay, they could have caused a tie.
     
    #28 JGrubbs, Jul 27, 2005
  9. KenH

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    Leviathan wins. I didn't catch the final breakdown by party but as of yesterday only 6 Democrats were in favor but 15 voted aye, and 25 Republicans were to vote against but I didn't see the last count but I think 27 Republicans voted no.
     
    #29 KenH, Jul 27, 2005
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    At least the Establishment couldn't muster a clear majority of the seated House members but had to settle for a plurality.
     
    #30 KenH, Jul 27, 2005
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    I guess Bush will start working on getting FTAA passed before 2008 now. :(
     
    #31 JGrubbs, Jul 28, 2005
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    Here's how everyone voted -

    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll443.xml

    My representative, Mike Ross, voted no. The Arkansas GOP representative, Boozman, voted yes. The other two Arkansas Democrats split - Berry voting no and Snyder voting yes.
     
    #32 KenH, Jul 28, 2005
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    #33 JGrubbs, Jul 28, 2005
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    That's twice we posted the same thing at the same time...you know what they say about great minds. ;)
     
    #34 JGrubbs, Jul 28, 2005
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    [​IMG]
     
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    I guess I'd better go stock up on my supplements before they start regulating them right off the shelves!
     
    #36 JGrubbs, Jul 28, 2005
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    Not a good day for the American who plays by the
    rules.
     
    #37 ASLANSPAL, Jul 28, 2005
  18. JGrubbs

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    Congressman Sherrod Brown prediction in USA Today was pretty accurate:

    "If the House of Representatives passes the Central American Free Trade Agreement, it will take place in the middle of the night, the normal 15-minute roll call will be extended to about three hours so that House leaders can twist arms, and the legislation will pass by one or two votes."

    Source: USA Today

    The vote did take place in the middle of the night, the normal 15-minute roll call was exteneded to just over one hour so that they House leaders and the Bush administration could twist arms and the legislation passed by only two votes.
     
    #38 JGrubbs, Jul 28, 2005
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    Ken and Jonathan ... You guys are scary ... Posting the same link at the exact same time ... YIKES ...
     
    #39 Pastor Larry, Jul 28, 2005
  20. JGrubbs

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    At 11:52 PM we posted the same info, then at 12:14 AM we posted the same links. [​IMG]
     
    #40 JGrubbs, Jul 28, 2005
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