Calvin Was A Man...

Well, there's a reliable source.... not

Let me help you out...http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/communication

 

Yea I know what you guys say but it doesnt change the fact that your way of communicating a particular theology is still under the heading of a man.

 

In looking over the wiki information, and the website in general, I found this as a cardinal rule for their work:

The initial into to the subject read as this:

The key here is the Calvinism is being desribed as a system, not a way. The system is name after John Calvin. Why?

To further seal the fate of your proposition using the source you provided:

And again,

I thought of editing some portion of this article in Wiki to add to it an understanding of the use of the terminology but apparantly they have done a fine job. :thumbsup:

So, obviously, your bow and arrow of slander here has been reduced to a nerf gun.

 

It doesn't matter in what context you make an attempt to use the phrase Calvinist, Calvinism or other wise. It is all based on the name of a man. And to use such a description is against scripture and incorrect. Now there is something you can add to the wiki article.

 

I know its hard, but your source didn't support your accusation. lol The proverbial :tonofbricks: have fallen.

 

My source is scripture. And it supports it well.

 

You sited wikipedia. lol

 

I cited 1 Cor

 

I would love to spend some time with 1 Corinthians. What was this for, you wrote to me:

 

It was to indicate what you were denying that the word calvinism is used to communicate a theology. Prior to that I cited 1 cor which says not to identify yoursled by the teaching of a man. We are all in Christ.

 

Well, then there has apparantly been a miscommunication. The term calvinism is terminolgy used to describe the body of truth that teaches salvation is by grace alone. It is a nickname attached to it. Spurgeon once remarked on this,

"..it is not hence to be imagined that we attach any authority to the opinion of John Calvin, other than which is due to every holy man who is ordained of God to proclaim His truth. We use the word simply for shortness of expression, and because the enemies of free grace will then be quite sure of what we mean. It is our firm belief, that what is commonly called Calvinism, is neither more nor less than the good old gospel of the Puritans, the Martyrs, the Apostles, and of our Lord Jesus Christ."

This is the sentiment I have been trying to communicate, but apparantly failed to do so. Hopefully this is cleared up now. Therefore, the application of 1 Corinthians to me or other Calvnists is inappropriate.

 

And he was wrong. It is not as you have just proved my point by refering to men as calvinists.

 

Well, this has certainly come to an end. When you will not allow us to define what we mean, and it is done in such clear and uncertain terms, yet you persist in the accusation, communication has ended. But I trust it is plain to all what we mean, except to those who refuse to allow us to define what we mean.

 

And what you do not get is it does not matter what you mean by it. Refering to men by the name of another man because of doctrine that he taught is against ! cor 1 regardless of the meaning you give to it.

 

Do you belong to a "Baptist Church", or a "Church of Christ"?

Please give reason why based on 1 cor 1

Thanks

 

This ought to be good....

 

How is this an equal comparison?

 

Waiting for your answer...

 

As am I but if it is a game you are after well then this conversation is over right here.

 

So you refuse to answer the question?