Calvinists on this board admit that their are certain passages that would natually lead one to think that the choice to believe in Christ is up to us. Several Calvinists have made statements like this one quoted by Rufus: Almost all truly born-again Christians begin as Arminians Here are some of those verses that might lead someone to "begin as an Arminian": - “I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life” (Deut. 30:19) - “Choose this day whom ye will serve” (Josh. 30:19) - “Repent…unless you repent you shall perish” (Mt. 4:17; Lk. 13:3) - For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life. (John 3:16) - “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved” (Acts 16:31) - “Repent and be baptized” (Acts 2:38) - “With the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation” (Rom. 10:10) - “Come unto Me” (Mt. 11:28) - "God desires that none perish but that all come to repentance." (2 Peter 3:9; 1 Tim 2:4) - “And the Spirit and the bride say, Come” (Rev. 22:17). These passages all lead the average readers to believe that humanity has a choice to make. That the free gift of Salvation has been made available to all and the only thing keeping us from it is our acceptance through faith. Some Calvinists even say "preach like an Arminian but believe like a Calvinist." Meaning call all people to faith and repentance as if all have the ability to respond. But what they fail to recognize is that by doing so they are being deceptive to their audiences. They are leading people to think they have a choice when in reality the choice has already been made for them. If Calvinists are correct in their understanding of scripture then the Bible is deceptive. In other words, Calvinist teach that the bible decieves its listeners into thinking they are the ones who have to make a choice and that disciples should also decieve our listeners by telling them that they everyone can be saved if they repent and believe, when in reality they know that not everyone has that ability. I don't know about the rest of you but I don't believe that the bible intentionally leads people to believe lies.