I figured with the interest there is on this subject and the things I've learned so far that this was a good discussion though at times off thread. The major differences begin with Choice. How much is granted to man? Calvinist would say Adam was entirely free to choose and had true free will. Man since that point has not. My definition of Free is unencumbered though the dictionary states: . That being the case with the view of original sin in mind mankind is encumbered with sin and therefore no longer free or has free will. Which means free will is moot to a Calvinist. Which fits in with their TULIP consept of Total Depravity. So we are elected from before the foundations of the world by God. There is some difference in point of view among Calvinist on whether God is double predestinarian or not. Jarthur holds with Luther on this matter. Where are other on this position?