Can a professed Christian lie and bear false witness everyday ?

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  1. Iconoclast

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    In a number of threads there have been several postings containing lie's and false witness against others ...on a daily basis?

    Can this be a part of any Christians life to where it is a habitual practice?

    How have you dealt with professed Christians who sin in this way?

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  2. T Alan

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    lol, this sounds kinda similar to "questioning the salvation" of "some people" which I understand is a damnable (sorry blackbird) position to take.
     
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    Professing Christians and genuine Christians can and do engage in all sorts of un-Christlike behavior. The difference is indwelling Holy Spirit.

    How long genuine Christians can engage in such conduct and withstand the conviction of the grieving, indwelling Holy Spirit is between them and God.
     
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    That is the issue. Can a person continue to do this behavior and not be disciplined by God? :thumbsup:
     
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    It actually deals with Rom 6:1-2
    shall we continue in sin that grace may abound?

    perhaps some translations say...yes..by all means?
     
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    If you observe any person anywhere doing this...do you feel you are responsible to raise this issue for the good of their soul,and the purity of gospel conduct.


    Can this in anyway be acceptable or to be countenanced?
     
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    As I said, gets into actual "redemption" verses "counterfeit". He will at some point chastise His. Look at folks like Hinn, O'steen, Oral Roberts.
     
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    God disciplines those He loves. Thank God He doesn't leave us to do as we see fit in our own minds.

    The next question might be how long will God endure a Christian in rebellion? Certainly not the same for every Christian, is it? Is this the "sin that leads to death", that is any unrepentant sin by a Christian that results in God bringing them home so as not to commit further rebellion?

    Many questions here that are beyond our sight, I think. The most we can do, IMHO, is to follow church discipline as explain by Jesus and to treat those who are professed Christians, but remain is sinful rebellion, as if they are unbelievers with the motive of restoring their relationship first with God and then with other believers.
     
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    Well, some round here say I'm a legalist. So my opinion my not be valid.
     
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    Good imput cyd


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    Yes...good thinking and imput....
     
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    Lying is very Christian behavior

    That is, if Christians are still sinners
     
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    I'll bite .....

    In a way, I have tried to bring this kind of behavior up, with little success, so I pray your OP has some success!

    There is way to much of what you say, going on, in fact, over the past few years, things have gotten much worse.

    I don't see how believers can be following Him by purposely trying to demean others. Insult others. Bear false witness against other. Share Gossip about others. Swear and cuss. Gang up on others with the intent to humiliate another person (I call it cyber bullying). Mock another, and even bring up past comments, but before they post in comment's section the edit it to read as they want it to read to bring more shame to the person, knowing this will lead to that person protecting themselves and responding, which is what they hoped for so they can further humiliate the person! Referring to a person's AGE and insulting them because they may be old or may have a disability. Inferring mental problems and poking fun at them! Correcting ones spelling and grammar with the purpose of humiliating them by, in my case, pointing ut that I am "supposed to be an author" subtly suggesting that I am in fact not an author, or they'd not have to correct my spelling or grammar! :tear:

    All of this is petty, but it is intentionally done to PROVOKE the other parties, and what is a shame, it works, and things digress and regress from there into a slinging mud fest! :tear:

    You are on to something, ICON, and I sure hope you can bring some folks under conviction, but I wouldn't look for it! Still I can hope!
     
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    The same could be said about carrying grudges and feuding.
     
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    I agree.....because how do you know who the genuine Christian is? Does God reveal him by having anyone glance at the Lambs Book of Life?
     
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    "Can a professed Christian lie and bear false witness everyday ?"
    Yes
    "In a number of threads there have been several postings containing lie's and false witness against others ...on a daily basis?
    Can this be a part of any Christians life to where it is a habitual practice?"

    Yes
    "How have you dealt with professed Christians who sin in this way?"
    Forgive and forget 7x77, move on
     
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    Can a professed Christian lie and bear false witness everyday ?

    ...yep, especially the one's who broadcast on all three major networks along with 65 cable channels around the world. The one's who..., for a small handling and carrying fee of only $39.95, will send you one of their prayer cloths. :thumbsup:
     
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    John 13:35
    By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
     
  19. Iconoclast

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    Good imput Dude,

    Here from A Baptist Catechism with Commentary...By W.R.Downing;
     
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    Good imput Dude,

    Here from A Baptist Catechism with Commentary...By W.R.Downing;
     

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