Can Any Immigration Bill Be Saved?

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  1. hillclimber1

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    http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/g/2998af5a-88a3-4164-9868-d8027d82ff1c

    Hugh Hewitt has a lot to say about it:
    This push for this bill is a disaster, Mr. President. Much much worse than the Miers nomination on which you had many good arguments, or the ports deal, on which you had fewer. On this issue there is no place to stand, and you are asking your friends in the Senate to go down fighting for a bad bill. It is a bad bill because no one believes the government can conduct millions of background checks (many spokesmen for the bill don't even pretend to know where the paperwork will go!). No one believes the bill will halt the next 12 million. No one believes you are going to assure the fence gets built. No one believes that the employer verification system will get done or work when some half-assed version of it does get done. No one believes that the probationary visas don't automatically convert illegal aliens with few if any rights into Due Process Clause covered legal migrants, with a Ninth Circuit ready and waiting to keep them here for decades.
     
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    From what all you said, looks like not too many people believe GW Bush anymore. I sure don't.
     
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    Can Any Immigration Bill Be Saved?
    If the Bill says Bush/Kennedy on it I would hope that it would promptly be filed in the trash bin . It is amazing how close Kennedy an Bush are on a lot of political issues, it is no wonder that they both continually get bashed so often.
     
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    The current immigration bill deserves to be jettisoned into the Gulf of Mexico!

    We need to do the following:

    Immediately close the borders to all illegal immigration. It can be done!
    Aggressively round up and repatriate all illegal aliens. It can be done!
    Make all elements - local, state, and federal - work together against illegal immigration. Imprison any government official who works to subvert the law.
    End all public benefits for illegal aliens except temporary emergency medical care and subsistence as necessary to sustain life long enough to repatriate them.
    Make illegal immigration a felony at least equal to criminal trespass.
    Make knowingly employing illegal aliens a criminal offense with heavy fines and aggressively prosecute it.
    Make English the one and only official language for transacting all government business.
    End the "anchor baby" misinterpretation of the Constitution. It was not the original intent!
    Stop kidding ourselves that we need the "cheap" labor when the net cost is a burden to us all.
    Get all the proponents of this nonsense immigration "reform" out of office.
     
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    Secure the borders and enforce the laws already on the books! Naw, too easy...how about we just merge with Mexico and Canada, then we can have a "security perimeter" and biometric communist national ID cards for everyone. "We don't need no steenking borders".
     
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    Both parties are ignoring the will of the people and Republicans, in particular are being willfully blind.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...6/03/AR2007060301455.html?hpid=topnews&sub=AR

    Backers of Immigration Bill More Optimistic
    Lawmakers Cite Sense of Urgency

    By Jonathan Weisman
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Monday, June 4, 2007; Page A01

    After a week at home with their constituents, the Senate architects of a delicate immigration compromise are increasingly convinced that they will hold together this week to pass an overhaul of the nation's immigration laws, with momentum building behind one unifying theme: Today's immigration system is too broken to go unaddressed.

    Congress's week-long Memorial Day recess was expected to leave the bill in tatters. But with a week of action set to begin today, the legislation's champions say they believe that the voices of opposition, especially from conservatives, represent a small segment of public opinion. Sen. Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.), who led negotiations on the bill for his party, said the flood of angry calls and protests that greeted the deal two weeks ago has since receded every day.



    To this, I politely reply, Bunk!
     
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    Here's one little part of the immigration "reform" bill that will suck up $15,000,000 of our money each year for four years - which would, not doubt, be renewed - and set us further on the path to confusion and chaos:

    "Subtitle C--State Court Interpreter Grant Program"

    That's right folks! It's a plan for us - at the federal level - to pay for interpreters for state courts through grants. Of course, we all know that grants come with strings attached. So, here's yet another plan to strike at English being the official language and also to further expand the power of the federal government.

    Read it yourself in sections 721 through 724 of the biggest Presidential, Congressional, and Judical rip off yet of this century.
     
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    That was a pretty humourous take on explaing immigration reform. The only thing that makes it a tragedy is that our President and our Representives in Washington haven't got a clue as to how illegal immigration has affected the hard working class in this country who played by the rules and never asked for anything but to be self sufficient. It is a slap in the face to all Americans who pay their taxes to see their tax money being spent to pander to those south of the border.
    Get the bums out of D.C. and lets get some real representation for the people before its too late.
     
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    Agreed!

    They're lost drooling over their own pages and pages of words and thinking they're "reforming" the laws when they're doing nothing but selling us out by failure to enforce and back up the existing laws.

    It stinks just like the Pension "Reform" Act of 2006.
     
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    My Senators and Representative get a message every day or two on this subject including responses to their double talk.

    Folks, let those you sent to Washington know what you want. Don't ask them - tell them! It's our money and our country. Keep the pressure on 'em else they'll sell us out.
     
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    You see, here's the problem. Illegal immigrants take jobs Americans won't do. Then we make them Americans. So then, they won't do the work either!
     
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    Uh huh. :thumbs:

    Second and third generation Mexican Americans are already fully "Americanized".
     

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