In the previous thread, some of you avoided the subject of Arminian inconsistency and seemed bent on pointing out the inconsistency of the doctrine of eternal security instead. Nevertheless, I think we established that NO Arminian can really KNOW that he will go to heaven. He can know he is saved, but since he cannot know that he will most certainly believe to the end of his life, he cannot KNOW that he will go to heaven. Therefore, no Free Will Baptist, Pentecostal or Methodist can honestly preach- "Come to Christ and you will miss the fires of hell and be in heaven with Jesus!" The only honest way for one of these movements to preach this is- "Come to Christ and you will be saved! But you still may not miss hell and go to heaven." The subject of this thread is that which some seemed determined to discuss in the other, though that was not what that thread was about. Namely: can the Eternal Securitist KNOW better than the Arminian that he will go to heaven?