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Can I be in God's will and support new versions?

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by uhdum, Mar 10, 2004.

  1. Ed Edwards

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    Then how do you account for what JEsus said in Matthew 13:30?
    Matthew 13:30 (The MessageĀ®):

    Let them grow together until harvest time.
    Then I'll instruct the harvesters to pull
    up the thistles and tie them in bundles
    for the fire, then gather the wheat and
    put it in the barn.'

    [​IMG]
     
  2. Precepts

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    Uh, Ed, anyone knows the difference between thistles and wheat, the real test to God's Word is in defining what "tares" are in line with the fact you cannot readily tell the difference between them and wheat, you know, like Rye grass and wheat. They look identical until they mature, they alsoare discernable when the contrary winds blow, the wheat bows gracefully, the rye grass/tares stand straight up and are soon broken.

    The wind being a type of the Holy Ghost tells the differences between the two.

    Oh, thanks for disproving the "message" as being accurate. See? you can be helpful. [​IMG]
     
  3. HankD

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    Yes.

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  4. Elijah

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    Brother Jim,

    Could you give us some scriptural evidence to support this answer my brother?
    </font>[/QUOTE]Good luck my friend. This is a question that is commonly asked of those who take a kjvo stance. Fact is, they cannot answer it scripturally without adding to scripture, and assuming that when the bible speaks of God preserving his word that He is talking about the kjv. Remember, the kjv (which by the way, I do use) was once a modern version.
     
  5. Elijah

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    Brother Jim,

    Could you give us some scriptural evidence to support this answer my brother?
    </font>[/QUOTE]Good luck my friend. This is a question that is commonly asked of those who take a kjvo stance. Fact is, they cannot answer it scripturally without adding to scripture, and assuming that when the bible speaks of God preserving his word that He is talking about the kjv. Remember, the kjv (which by the way, I do use) was once a modern version.
     
  6. TC

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    Those of us that use MV's are not against the KJV. Nevertheless, we are against KJVOnlyism. You need to quit bringing up this dead horse - it's already been confronted and proved wrong.

    To answer the original question, it is possible to support MV's and oppose KJVOnlyism and still be in God's will.
     
  7. robycop3

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  8. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Is not this thread in violation of BB rules by questioning spirituality based on use of Bible versions?
     
  9. Scott J

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    Who is looking down their "snooty self righteous noses at others"?

    Actually, the Holy Spirit can and does use other versions of the Bible to guide people into all "Truth". The only place that isn't true is in the vain imaginings of KJVOnlyism.
     
  10. Scott J

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    No. Most of the time we just apply the standards you use to judge MV's and apply them to the KJV to demonstrate your double standards... thus exposing the dishonesty of the KJVO position.
     
  11. Johnv

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    Three words for that attitude:

    PHA - RA - SEE

    Now, I study the Word in Greek and Hebrew. Does that mean I can claim I'm closer to God than a KJVO. Of course not! It does, however, give me the ability to understand the context of God's word in its original language and intent better than those who use a translation, which would include KJVO's. A KJVO cannot make that same assertion using the KJV compared to post-KJV translations.
     
  12. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Surely someone missed this question since it has not been answered.


    Brother Jim,

    Could you give us some scriptural evidence to support this answer my brother?
    </font>[/QUOTE]What saith the scriptures my dear brethren?
     
  13. Johnv

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    Scripture is silent in regards to translational issues.
     
  14. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    How then is it possible to judge whether or not a man is in the will of God based on his view of versions?
     
  15. Johnv

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    IMO, the translation that a person uses generally does not play a major factor in determining whether or not someone is "in the will of God". That can be better determined by the fruits that a person produces.
     
  16. RaptureReady

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    Yes.
     
  17. Orvie

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    No. Those who arrogantly proclaim a view that is conjecture, a myth such as KJVO:kjbo, and they set themselves up i.e. "OneUpManship" tends to be as the Pharisees.
     
  18. Orvie

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    Pre-you've pretty much described the KJVO:kjbo myth pretty well, except most MV adavocates are not anti-KJV, but anti-kjbo. The way some KJVO's:kjbo's parallel the Pharisees is amazing. :eek:
     
  19. Orvie

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    I don't think Mr Pre "gets it"...you gotta lay it out super duper crystal clear for him, otherwise: Paranoid. [​IMG]
     
  20. Scott J

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    Of course not. It isn't what you carry in your hand but what you carry in your heart that counts.

    Let's say that KJVO's are right (I know, a stretch but let's pretend) and every "omission" is in fact an omission and the MV's are wrong in every way that KJVO's contend that they are. If someone knew and applied everything else taught in a faithful MV, they would still be more in God's will than anyone on the BB.
     
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