Can I cross the line and pray....

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  1. ASLANSPAL

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    On January 3, 2006 Haliburton was awarded a profane amount of 385,000,000 dollars to build camps inside the continental United States...by the Department of Homeland Security..for what no one knows yet..perhaps internment camps.
     
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    Maybe for Muslims in case we're attacked again. Ya think?
     
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    Maybe for Christians, evangelicals... maybe?
     
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    One can only hope so ... Perhaps they will be targeted at conspiracy theorists. That would cut internet traffice by half ... and nonsense as well.
     
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    Yeah, maybe if you don't make waves, don't look them directly in the eye, they won't notice you. I imagine the German people had similar hopes.
     
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    What is the conspiracy "theory" in this instance exactly?

    Here's the press release.

    "The contract, which is effective immediately, provides for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to augment existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations (DRO) Program facilities in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs."

    "The contract may also provide migrant detention support to other U.S. Government organizations in the event of an immigration emergency, as well as the development of a plan to react to a national emergency, such as a natural disaster. In the event of a natural disaster, the contractor could be tasked with providing housing for ICE personnel performing law enforcement functions in support of relief efforts. ​

    These things are being built and "our" government is spending $380 million to build 'em. Someone is going into these camps at some point. The only questions are when and who.
     
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    It was a joke, dude. Lighten up ...

    But seriously ... If we get serious about illegal immigration, won't we need some kind of housing for them? One of the issues about arresting illegals now, as I understand it, is the lack of jail space to put them in.

    It could have also served a purpose after Katrina, when thousands were displaced with nowhere to go.

    The assumption that it would be used for a Nazi type internment, or devious purposes is a conspiracy theory.
     
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    :laugh::laugh::laugh:
    When did this administration ever give you the idea that it was planning to get serious about illegal immigration?
     
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    I got tinfoil hated for talking about the North American Union and the Amero so I have a hard time gauging the level of ostrichism on this board.

    Why house another nation's citizens? If we were serious about illegal immigration we would give local law enforcement the ability to initiate deportation for non-citizens. If we were serious about illegal immigration we would incarcerate business executives who knowingly engage in this illegal activity thus, taking away the monetary carrot for illegals. If we were serious about illegal immigration we would kill NAFTA, CAFTA, FTAA and we certainly wouldn't support the NAU. If we were serious about illegal immigration we would start a bus line rather than a hotel service.

    I'd have to agree that without more definitive data, any speculation about how and for who these camps will be used for is theory, until it comes to pass. However, whether they are intended for Mexicans, Arabs or Euros, I don't like the idea of them on American soil and I certainly don't like paying for them.
     
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    What is this is the start? (I have no idea. I was commenting on the possible use, in light of the article quoted. I couldn't care less.)

    Much of what you say is true, but surely you are not in favor of deporting people without finding out if they are actually illegal are you? Where will you house them until the legal process runs its course?
     
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    No.

    First, I wouldn't round 'em up all at once unless I wanted to waste $380 million dollars on a one-time need. You inform the populace that this is coming down, x quantity will make a run for the border. It takes two shakes to determine where someone was born for job apps. In the same way gov't requires employers to be IRS agents, they can require employers to be ICE agents (neither constitutional of course but that hasn't stopped 'em before). When there are no jobs and no free social services then there is no pot of gold. In addition, this gets solved when the RealID act forces all of us to have a national ID. They can simply ask, "May I see your papers please?" If you provide it you stay, if you don't you go.
     
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    This is interesting but focuses on current prisoners. Where is the increase in prisoner count coming from to necessitate $380 Million worth of new detention facilities?
     
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    The last major use of the detention facility at Fort Chaffee was
    for refugees from New Orleans.

    The use before that was about 15-20 years ago when Castro
    shipped tens of thousands of his petty criminals over to the USofA.
    They couldn't get out until they found a sponsor.
    Even the Cubans in Florida wouldn't sponsor most of these
    criminals.
     
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    Once they finish passing all their thought-crime, err, hate crime legislation, they may have a few more prisoners than they used to? I would hate to find myself on the wrong side of the barbed wire, thats for sure.
     
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    It's not expensive to build an internment camp.

    100 old style army tents and three stran of constantina wire and 40 K-9 stationed outside the wire will do it. You don't need multi-million dollar facilities. That would take care of about 5-10 thousand very easily. I know......I was a professional dog walker in Sam's military.

    Thanks Bartimaeus/Ky/Look Away!
     
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    The U.S. bureacracy in D.C. doesn't understand "simple", Bartimaeus. It brought us an overwhelming tax burden for prescription drugs. Wal-Mart did it for $4 from those who need a prescription. There are empty military bases around the nation, with everything needed for internment. They are growing weeds thru cracks in the runways, parade grounds.........

    :tonofbricks: <----bureacrats in D.C.
     
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    How many of these facilities have actually been built?

    Anyone wanna bet on any number higher than Zero?


    con·tin·gen·cy (kən-tĭn'jən-sē) Pronunciation Key [​IMG] [​IMG]
    n. pl. con·tin·gen·cies
      1. An event that may occur but that is not likely or intended; a possibility.
      2. A possibility that must be prepared for; a future emergency.
    1. The condition of being dependent on chance; uncertainty.
    2. Something incidental to something else.
     
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    This is one thing that is not contingent:
    Halliburton’s subsidiary KBR (formerly Kellogg, Brown and Root) announced on January 24, 2006 that it had been awarded a $385 million contingency contract by the Department of Homeland Security to build detention camps in the United States.

    And that my fellow taxpayers is a lot of moolah for building something that is only a CONTINGENCY.
    WHAT A SWEET DEAL for the people at Haliburton.
     

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