Can we hold our breath?

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  1. Not_hard_to_find

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    Not only is "holding our breath" the wisest policy but realistically I don't see where we have any choice.
     
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    You are right about this issue. We have run out of options because of the size of our military, our commitments, and support here.
     
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    What is the size of our military? How many of them are in a combat zone? How many of them are currently supporting missions here in America?

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    This post from another thread might help answer some of these questions, at least with regards to the Army.

    LINKIE

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    Maybe we should build bomb shelters in our back yards like in the 50's???
     
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    We should be diligently exploring and developing oil fields in our home country.

    Holding our breath implies, to me, that we rely upon the middle east's (Iran in this case) good will in the future. I can't think of a worse thing to do given the political climate over there, and in light of end times prophecy.
     
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    It implies to me we have squandered our military might because of no leadership.
     
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    Then drastically increase the size of our military and equip it with appropriate weaponry. I believe we've never lived in a more dangerous world.
     
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    Then you join and lead the charge. Talk is cheap. Those who fight these wars pay the price.
     
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    It implies to me a wait and see, but not on Iran's good will, but on Iran's ability to retain economic viability -- which doesn't bode well if they do not both maintain current infrastructure and increase investments in their country.

    As for shelters -- heck, here in Texas we have 'em and duck in 'em when the clouds turn green and start to twist a bit.
     
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    It boils down to what we stand for. If this current philosophy of appeasement and cut-n-run, (as this post of yours illustrates), prevails, then we are ducking the responsibilities the Lord placed on this nation. But that is the current direction we are being led.
     
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    By utilizing resources here (alt energy PLUS Anwar and Gulf drilling), we shall be "holding our breath" for a lot less time. It would hasten Iran's descent into irrelevance.

    I hope.:smilewinkgrin:
     
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    It is hardly cut and run, my philosophy. Yours is wave the flag and let others make the sacrifice. Since your home state votes for that philosophy every election, maybe you should not point fingers.
     
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    Just because his home state votes that way doesn't mean HE does. DUH.
    And just because he advocates returning our military to its once strong position does not mean he is ABLE to join up. He could be an "old" man like myself who could not join up even if he WANTED to. We haven't returned to the might Reagan built since Clinton gutted our military. I think we need to return to Reagan policies, not Bush ploicies. Both his daddy and junior are gutless when compared to Reagan.

    If we had just a smattering of the courage that Reagan did, then perhaps we would not be in this mess to begin with.
     
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    What a bunch of baloney. If I had to guess, you voted for both Bushes. As far as you being too old, that is baloney also. There are people in Iraq serving in their 50's. I am quite fit enough to serve, being at least 6 years older than you. But then again, I am not the one shouting lets invade another country.
     
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    All this foolish rhetoric about Reagan. I remember that over 200 of our Marines were killed in an attack in Beirut and all Reagan did was to withdraw our troops. I guess Reagan was the first to implement a "cut and run" policy.
     
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    Wave the flag and let others make the sacrifice? I'm old and my knees don't work right. Do you deny me a voice? I am for a strong, well equipped military, bent on destroying evil. I have my last son, leaving for basic training, the 9th of January. Is that good enough? Your implication is despicable.

    You know, this is the second time you seem to imply that I am somehow responsible for my states political leanings. What exactly are you trying to do? Encourage me? Chasten me? It seems like a child's argument on the playground.

    Turnabout is fair play. Why are you so insistent on the United States losing the war on terror? If we cut and run, we will never again be trusted to aid our allies, and Iraq and its patriots for democracy will die. And they are probably millions.
     
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    There are other tactical ways fo winning in Iraq without sacrificing our brave young men and women. As for as our allies go, they aren't stupid enough not to trust the U.S. in times of dire need. The war on terror will continue until the end of time and it requires intelligent stratagies from intelligent leaders, sadly the Bush administration did not rely on the right sources for their stratagies.
     

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