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Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by Ben W, Jun 8, 2005.
Going on from the can women preach thread, can a woman baptise a man?
It would not be Scriptural Baptism!
There is plenty of history to show that people at one point in time were baptized naked. So can you imagine a man baptizing a woman?
Though I obviously objected strongly to Scott's theory that women shouldn't even teach men, I don't think women should baptize - period.
I assume this has something to do with authority. I'm curious, why is baptizing someone considered a role of authority? I'm not saying it doesn't. I just want to flesh this out.
Runs in my mind way back in church history they had separate batistrys (large pools) and men were in one and women in the other, so I would assume the women baptized women.
Where does it say women can't baptize men in the Bible???
Is the Great Commission for men only, or for all Christians?
It boggles the mind. A candidate walks forward asking for membership by transfer of letter. From another baptist church. All is well until . . . suddenly . . . someone finds out that the preacher at the former church was wheelchair bound and sometimes his wife would do the dipping which was the case for our current candidate.
Naturally we all vote to make him be baptised again, right?
Yes, women can baptize men and other women for that matter.
In Landmark Baptist theology, a large subset of fundamental Baptist theology, no.
Only a properly commissioned pastor or deacon from a properly established Landmark Baptist church.
Partly because it would not be seen just as an initial act of obedience by the new Christian, but induction into the local church.
Many SBC churches whether Landmark in theology or not, would think the same way.
Baptism and the Lord's Supper are the two ordinances of a church, (yes, some Baptists count foot-washing) and therefore their administration is under that church's control.
There is no Biblical record of a woman ever baptizing anyone - man or woman. No. She can't.
There is also no biblical record of an alter call, or sinners prayer. They should be banned at once.
There is also no Biblical record of a Baptist Board. But, we do have the Great Commission. Again, I ask the question, is the GC only for men and pastors, or is it for all Christians?
Why does every discussion have to include inane, mindless arguments? NNE gave an altar call, or was on a discussion board in the Bible, but there was baptism. Always performed by men. To answer Joseph's question, the Great Commission is given to the local church. It is the only agency that God has Scripturally commissioned for this age, and the Biblical leadership positions (pastor and deacon) are reserved for men. Certainly you don't believe that God wants all Christians to run around indiscriminately baptizing people into nothing with no authority or accountability?
Show scripture where it is commissioned only to the LOCAL church. Who makes up the "church"? Only men?
Does this mean women should not make disciples? Ladies, you may now ignore the Great Commission. It is not for you, I guess.
I have never seen a convincing Scriptural case that Christ gave every believer His authority to make disciples by preaching the gospel to anyone (whether male or female regarding this thread) but there is some implied restriction (males only...or authority of the local church only) regarding the part of making disciples that involves baptizing a person.
The authority to baptize comes from God...the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. If the authority came from the church, then wouldn't one baptize in the name of the church?
We are not discussing women preachers. We are discussing whether or not women should Baptize.
Where do you find any implication in scripture that part of the Great Commission is only for men?