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Canadian Health Care Bests US

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by alatide, Sep 20, 2009.

  1. Robert Snow

    Robert Snow New Member

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    You misunderstand!

    If all you are doing, which is admirable, is not enough, it is evident that some people need more than individuals are willing or able to provide. We need the federal government to step in and help. This is one more reason I support a universal single-payer health care bill.
     
  2. targus

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    Why a univeral single-payer plan?

    Why not a targeted program to address only those who are truly in need?

    Why the over kill?
     
  3. annsni

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    Once again, this is not about health care. What I'm saying is that I don't want my government taking more of my money when I personally can use that money to help people in a real, tangible way. I know many others who would do the same thing. She is a woman who's husband left her. She struggles to make ends meet and lives paycheck to paycheck. She refuses to take government assistance because it would not be good for her family - but this illness set her back. There are now a group of us who are fundraising for her to be able to pay this month's bills - just $200, but that's a lot when you don't have it.
     
  4. alatide

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    OK, that's one. You have 40M uninsured to go. This is about helping the needy.
     
  5. Robert Snow

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    OK, I see what you are saying. If this family doesn't want governmental help, they are free to decline it. I think it is a mistake, and I certainly wouldn't do it, but it's up to them.

    As far as you not wanting the government to take more of your money, we live in a Democratic Republic and if the Congress raises taxes, you and I both will pay.

    I think we should stop spending money on useless wars and corporate welfare for companies like Haliburton and use this money to help those in need.
     
  6. Revmitchell

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    We should stop spending money on both down size the fed and look for non government solutions so the country can live in a truly free state as it was founded on. Let the states decide to do this type of foolish stuff and it will at least be more effective by taking out an unnecessary middle man.
     
  7. Twizzler

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    Those are good times, CTB! I remember being so poor and I look back on those times with fondness, knowing full well that we easily could have taken state money (welfare and foodstamps) but we just tightened our belts and made it through. God is good!
     
  8. Crabtownboy

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    You are right, those were good times. In fact we had a blast during those lean days. We had each other. It was all new and the world lay before us. We never thought about food stamps. We budgeted by the envelope method .... $10.00 a week for groceries. You cannot deficit spend an envelope. Poor does not mean miserable, but it does mean being very careful.
     
  9. Twizzler

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    LOL! We STILL use the envelope method! My wife insists that it costs $175 a week to feed us and I think she's nuts, but I graciously slip that cash in the envelope every week and eat well every night.
     
  10. Nonsequitur

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    Please show where the 40 million is without care.
     
  11. alatide

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    What is your position on extending health care to those who don't currently have insurance? I've assumed you don't support it. Maybe I'm wrong.
     
  12. Alcott

    Alcott Well-Known Member
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    Let's make this clear... Are you claiming that whether a person will be on the left or the right of Christ depends on whether he happens to live in a country that rewards the slothful?
     
  13. Nonsequitur

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    #1 Health insurance is something that is pre-paid. YOU want to make it a law that others pay for it.
    #2 Health CARE is something that is already assured to anyone that needs it, on an emergency basis.
    Since you don't have a job and your daddy still pays your bills little girl, why do you care? When you get out of school and have a job (given to you by your daddys' friends), you can give all the money you make to health care for other people. Then you can run for mayor, telling others how you will give all your money for health 'Care' for others.
     
  14. Winman

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    Here is but a portion of a letter by a Canadian about socialized health-care

     
  15. annsni

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    How many are in your family? We're a family of 6 with 2 adults, 2 teens (eat like adults) and two elementary school kids (who are fast approaching eating like adults) and I can't get our food bill under $200 a week. This week I spent $250, but that included a number of non-food items that we needed. I'm feeding all 6 of us 3 meals a day, 7 days a week. So trust your wife! LOL Food's expensive!
     
  16. Twizzler

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    It's a CONSPIRACY! :) J/k. There are five of us here, we've lost our lease on the oldest and he's flown the coop. ;)
     
  17. alatide

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    No. I'm saying that Christians love their neighbors not just the ones that are well off. They also love their enemies.
     
  18. targus

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    Something like the love that you show daily on this forum towards those on the "Right"?

    Especially like the love that you show daily for George Bush?
     
  19. Bro. Curtis

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    And maybe you shouldn't throw scripture around like you do, either.
     
  20. Andy T.

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    No, I think he's saying that unless you support liberal social policies, then you are going to hell.
     
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