Can't Change the Condition So Change the Name

>Yes. But the meaning of words do change.

How does one convince KJO Christians and "Constitution only" Right wingers?

 

Only from your mind would this come Bill.

 

The evolution of language is an observable fact. They don't "suddenly" become offensive, but, over time, some words come to be seen as more offensive.

You can feel free to use outdated and offensive terminology, but you must be aware that a lot of people will think you are a jerk.

If you don't believe me, I suggest walking into an African-American church and using the term "Negro."

 

You guys all know that Chris Christy is a Conservative Republican, right

 

Yes, and from what I've read, I wouldn't be upset if he was our governor.

 

I take offense at your use of the word "jerk".

I feel that an apology is in order.

Perhaps I should contact my congress person to request that this word be banned also.

 

Fine if we want to use less "outdated" and maybe less offensive words.

(I still contend that Gov. Christie was trying to find things to call New Jersey Democrats that offended them less.)

But as usual, government takes what might not be a terrible idea, and takes it too far. You want to not use "retarded" anymore? Fine.

But why are we trying to legislate word order?? Why is this worthy of legislation??

Come on. Doesn't our government have more important stuff to do...like condemning property via eminent domain for more tax revenues...protecting 4-inch minnows at the cost of a million jobs...and sending a kid home for a week for bringing a tic-tac to school?

Oh, wait. Never mind. Forgot they can multi-task.

 

Your facetiousness is well-noted.

If you call someone a jerk, it's an offensive statement. I'm not trying to claim that the term indicates anything else.

 

I do think it is silly to legislate word order, but I don't want to throw the proverbial baby out with the bathwater.

 

So you are only against the use of offensive words that have non-offensive alternative meanings?

BTW - the word "jerk" does have other non-offensive meanings.

 

This bill was signed by republican (another R-word) Chris Christi!

I thought many conservatives here supported Christi?

 

Keep in mind, that many of us are what are known as "independent thinkers."

(I realize that to a democrat, the term may be unfamiliar)

It means that just because there is a particular suffix behind a politician's name--we reserve the right to be critical of particular decisions and positions.

It's really a freeing concept. You should consider trying it sometime.

 

I'm glad we can agree on this point.

I'm assuming this is a legitimate question.

The word order is important for people with disability because it is about their identity.

We do it all the time in the medical profession. We refer to people with their disease. "The stroke in bed 8". "The delirious lady last week". It makes for easier communication at times but would in fact be very rude if we talked to the patient in that way. If I actually went up to a patient and said "Hello, you must be the stroke in bed 8", I might not get a lawsuit but I've automatically lost rapport with my patient.

By using language like that, I have reduced the person to their disease. By reversing the word order (gentleman with at stroke), they are a person with a disease. This is especially important for chronic illness where the disease in many ways does take over their life and the specific wording of "person with disability" helps to reinforce that the person is more than just their disease. It may not appear like much difference to those not suffering that disease, but for those who are suffering from that disease, it is a significant change in how you perceive their identity.

 

I agree, it is a ridiculous bill.

As a democrat, I don't support the whole democratic platform either, but here at the BB is seems the ability to only support part of a party platform applies only to the republicans.

 

Robert, you may know more than I do on the subject, but how did Chris Christi sign the bill? He is governor of NJ, he isn't in Washington.

 

From the article in the OP:

I was just going by what I read in the article.

If I am wrong, I'm sorry.

 

Thanks. It did say NJ. It is NJ's law.

 

Imagine that...common ground.

Doesn't the fact that many of us who are speaking against a Christie action prove the contrary of your assertion?