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Featured Capital Punishment -- Proof it should be eliminated

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Crabtownboy, Sep 3, 2014.

  1. Crabtownboy

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    Does the Bible say it is permissible to execute innocent people?
     
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    just two weeks ago C.T.Boy wanted to start killing people based solely on what they had said.
     
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    But that is the point I've attempted to make for years now :laugh: It may be the proper punishment when looking through earthly, human eyes. And like divorce, God allows it. But is it so from a BIBLICAL perspective?

    Which worldview should take precedence in the life of the Christian? The one that sees things through a worldly prism first? Or the one that sees things through a Christ prism first?

    Your comment shows that you understand the difference between the two and thus should understand why the default of the Christian has to be life, grace and mercy in lieu of The Cross.

    Of course the command still stands. But where are the prophets, the Moses's the Samuels, the Joshuas who are in authority receiving a decree from God HIMSELF to righteously carry out said final earthly punishment?

    The Jews aren't stoning people for not keeping The Law.

    The reason its still sinful is because no one on earth can righteously make such a decision in lieu of The Cross and what the NT says.
     
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    Supporting PLanned Parenthood and being against Capital Punishment is nothing but hypocrisy.
     
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    We have already discussed this issue and noted that you cannot show that the Bible says that it is permissible to execute innocent people.

    However, you cannot show that it is not Biblical to execute guilty people.

    Your problem is that you are apparently neo-orthodox and believe only in the Fatherhood of God, the Brotherhood of Man, and the Neighborhood of Martha's Vineyard.
     
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    Now I don't know about anyone else, but I know CTB has said he's against abortion. I'm sure he can express his feelings on PP if needed.

    I've often wondered why a group that calls itself Planned Parenthood would take part in the killing of babies? YUCK!

    Now as for me, I am against the taking of a human life PERIOD.
     
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    Is it a sin to execute convicted innocent people?
     
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    You and I agree. We are pro-life. Some are only partly pro-life ... pro-life for the unborn, but not for those alive.

    Bringing in Planned Parenthood is simply a tactic trying to divert the subject of the thread ... which is executions should not take place as long as there are innocent people on death row.
     
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    Being against abortion and pro capital punishment knowing that innocent people will die is hypocrisy.
     
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    It's permissible. Scripture tells us that all things are permissible. The sin enters in when those things aren't necessarily beneficial or to God's glory. They executed Jesus. But permissible does not mean "not sinful".

    Of course it's Biblical. But that doesn't mean that doing so is not sinful. The only times it was not sinful was when God gave the decree to His prophets, or His chosen leader or specifically to the Jewish people to keep them separate.

    After The Cross, you simply don't see it.
     
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    If people's reason for being against abortion is the innocence angle, it really doesn't make much sense to not use the same angle with capital punishment.

    Which again is why I say they can't really say this is about morality because morality should be based in the absolute truth of God's word that does not produce confusion or disorder.
     
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    Exactly. The unborn are innocent. If anti-abortion but pro capital punishment folk are going to use the innocent defense for the unborn then it is hypocritical not to extend the same defense to protect the innocent living. They are not truly pro-life, but selective pro-life.
     
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    Name one innocent person that was executed. Just one.
     
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    Jesus Christ
     
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    Carpro, as you like to say, we have discussed that in other threads and names were given. It has happened and will continue to happen as long as capital punishment is permitted.

    Since 1973 over 140 individuals have been found innocent and released from death row.


     
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    Give me a name. Just one innocent person that has been executed.
     
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    Zaac - do you ascribe to "love the sinner, hate the sin"?
     
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