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I'm wondering how Trump picking corporate winners is different from when Obama picked corporate winners? Anybody want to enlighten me why it's OK to do this now, but when Obama was doing it in Great Recession it was wrong?

 

You know, when even the liberals over at The Young Turks are calling this a win for Trump, you might have to rethink some things:

 

I counted three curse words in the OP. Should have been edited out.

Evidence that CTB cuts-and-pastes without reading first.

 

I hope some of you guys know you are becoming quite the downers... There seems to be a disturbing desperation to direct (twist) every new action into pessimism and negativity around here and it is getting beyond old, it has become downright sad, frankly such motivation gives the impression of coming from a state of mind that seems rather unhealthy and rooted in personal dissatisfaction with life in general. I appreciate hearing Christian views of current events going on in the world but the thought has come to mind that what's behind an agenda of this kind of nitpicking vitriol toward every movement is probably something better to be avoided by anyone who would like to take some pride in country for change and wishes to enjoy a little peace and happiness in watching the overdue positive changes which are coming to our nation. ...just sayin...

 

They're still just mad that Trump beat Hillary. Some of them even admit a lot of things will get better, but it still doesn't make them happy. I guess they invested too much of themselves intheir anti Trump agenda and now they justcan't shake it. Even to the point of being hyper critical of things that haven't even occured, but might. Maybe.

Strange behavior for a bunch of people who basically just didn't get what they wanted and don't know how to handle it. Suffering from PEST, the same disorder that caused Al Gore to gain 100 pounds , grow a beard and become a shill for phony science. Pest does strange things to otherwise normal people, even Christians.

 

I'm wondering how Trump picking corporate winners is different from when Obama picked corporate winners? Anybody want to enlighten me why it's OK to do this now, but when Obama was doing it in Great Recession it was wrong?

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Selective amnesia?

 

Which winners did Obama pick? All I remember is the fiasco of funding green energy startups, which I would say differs from incentivizing an established company to stay in the country.

 

The green energy companies like Solyndra and Fiskers are great examples, (and they weren't start-ups). Another example is the General Motors bailout, including related GM suppliers. I'm sure there are others.

It's not just incentivizing companies to stay in the country, picking winners and losers also means dis-incentivizing them like slapping regulations on them such as when Obama had the EPA crackdown on drilling for oil or changing the air quality standards to hurt coal burning powerplants.

Slapping tariffs on companies that leave the country, like Trump wants to do, is the worst sort of picking winners and losers.

So I ask again for the third time, if this was wrong, wrong, wrong for Obama why is it now OK for Trump to do it?

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No need to rethink that liberals love to have government meddle in free enterprise, which is basically what this guy is advocating. (Obama is too soft to do what Trump is willing to do was essentially the message in the video.)

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This quote by Mike Pence is quite ominous:

“The free market has been sorting it out and America’s been losing,” Mike Pence said yesterday, while in the background Trump could be heard singing the chorus: “Every time, every time.”

I can see this line of reasoning being applied to lots of industries, like health care and energy, for starters.

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http://www.westernjournalism.com/du...rump-could-do-nothing-to-retain-carrier-jobs/


During June Town Hall, Obama Said Trump Could Do Nothing To Retain Carrier Jobs


Back in June, President Barack Obama derided President-elect Donald Trump’s ability to do anything for the Carrier Corp. employees who were slated to lose their jobs. In the wake of Carrier announcing it would shift production from Indiana to Mexico, the president indicated that jobs leaving Indiana were part of a trend that could not be reversed.


The president later told the audience they would have to learn to live with the loss.

 

Using the government's pull as a customer is far different than writing law and regulation to mandate changes in business practices.

Private industry does this all the time, and nobody claims that it is an affront to free enterprise.

 

Conservatives made similar negative flaps about Obama policies and I was among them.

As far as I know my complaints were not against him personally but his policies (same gender marriage) and projects (Obamacare in particular).

So those of us who are not #NEVERTRUMP should expect a tsunami against Trump's actions which has amazingly started before he is even inaugurated.

What is sad is the venom of ad hominem posts which has come forth since the election.
True, both conservatives and progressives have their "attack dogs" which are let loose particularly at election times.

Thank goodness dueling has been outlawed (apart from debating).

Personally I thank the LORD for allowing us to have the Bill of Rights.
An unparalleled freedom for America's citizens in the history of world government.


HankD

 

Solyndra and Fiskers were manufacturing companies that received loan guarantees from the federal government in order to maintain/create jobs. Carrier is a manufacturing company that is getting tax incentives to maintain jobs. Essentially they are both getting free money from the federal government.

So I ask again for the fourth time, if this was wrong, wrong, wrong for Obama why is it now OK for Trump to do it?

 

Yeah, with you so far...

Yes, if we believe in a principle or ethic we should be consistent.

Well, you lost me. Who has made on ad-hominem attack, other than Benjamin and Carpro, in this thread?