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Case Against Haditha Marines is Crippled

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  1. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/4/24/164012.shtml?s=lh

    Bombshell Cripples Case Against Haditha Marines

    Philip V. Brennan
    Wednesday, April 25, 2007



    Convincing evidence that corroborates NewsMax.com's accounts of the Haditha insurgent ambush has compelled the prosecution to take extraordinary steps to bolster their crumbling case.

    The stunning announcement that all charges are being dropped against Sgt. Sanick P. Dela Cruz, formerly accused of murder in the Haditha incident where 24 Iraqis were killed during an insurgent ambush against the Marines, is indication that the prosecutors have a very weak case against all the defendants, lawyers for the some of the accused say.

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    Baseless Charges

    Although the prosecutors said they needed more time to prepare their cases, there is much more to the story than that NewsMax.com has learned, and it paints a shocking picture of a prosecution that should never have been pursued.

    In a nutshell, the case exploded when an intelligence officer dropped a bombshell on prosecutors during a pre-hearing interview when he revealed the existence of exculpatory evidence that appears to have been obtained by the Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS) and withheld from the prosecutors.


    This officer, described by senior Marine Corps superiors as one of the best and most dedicated intelligence officers in the entire Marine Corps, was in possession of evidence which provided a minute-by-minute narrative of the entire day's action — material which he had amassed while monitoring the day's action in his capacity as the battalion's intelligence officer. That material, he says, was also in the hands of the NCIS.

    Much of that evidence remains classified, but it includes videos of the entire day's action, including airstrikes against insurgent safe houses. Also included was all of the radio traffic describing the ongoing action between the men on the ground and battalion headquarters, and proof that the Marines were aware that the insurgents conducting the ambush of the Kilo Company troops were videotaping the action — the same video that after editing ended up in the hands of a gullible anti-war correspondent for Time magazine.
     
    #1 carpro, Apr 27, 2007
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    Folks will attack the news source, rather than give this Marine the benefit of the doubt.

    Good news, for the good guys. Maybe they'll be less afraid to do their job.
     
    #2 Bro. Curtis, Apr 27, 2007
  3. carpro

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    of course.

    But something is going on whether the corrupt old media reports it or not.

    Charges are being dropped against the Marines involved on almost a daily basis.:thumbs:
     
    #3 carpro, Apr 27, 2007
  4. Shiloh

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    GOOD It's about time we support our troops!
     
    #4 Shiloh, Apr 27, 2007
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    Yep. And how well I remember how some here were quick to rush to judgment on our Marines instead of giving them the benefit of the doubt. It is, after all, supposed to be a war where the enemy gets killed. Unlike previous wars, the enemy is not brave enough or courageous enough to wear uniforms.
     
    #5 LadyEagle, Apr 27, 2007
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    May God be with our troops.

    And:


    God Bless America
     
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  7. Magnetic Poles

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    If these marines are guilty, they should be imprisoned for the rest of their lives. However, they must also be given the presumption of innocence until found guilty at trial.

    If the shoe were on the other foot, and Iraq's military had invaded the U.S., and a group of Iraqi soldiers raped a 14-year old child and killed her and her family in, oh let's say Charlotte, NC; everyone would be screaming for justice. Not everyone who dons the uniform of our country is honorable.

    I am withholding judgment until the full evidence comes out. But I also don't hold them blameless just because they are US military.
     
    #7 Magnetic Poles, Apr 27, 2007
  8. Petra-O IX

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    Right MP, I agree about withholding judgement. One has to be objective in these situations even if it is involving domestic criminal cases. the whole key is being objective. Is it possible that no crime was commited--Yes, having said that and since charges were made against these Marines we have to concede that is also possible that these Marines did commit the crimes but we have to let the evidence speak.
    We cannot allow ourselves to believe falsely that these horrendous crimes cannot occur just because they wear a Soldiers uniform.We have to consider that the Iraqi's are not substandard to the American soldiers and therefore not entitled to justice what kind of respect would that show. These soldiers are innocent until proven guilty but justice must prevail.
     
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  9. BruceB

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    These Marines were never accused of killing a 14 year old girl and murdering her and her family. They were accused of using excessive force with disregard to the rules of engagement, something that has been debunked by the intel revelations. The 14 year old girl was raped and killed by four US Army Soldiers in the 101st ABN DIV - they are all serving sentences in US Military prisons after their convictions for murder and rape at their court martial for their criminal activities. The two cases are examples of civilian casualties due to the fog of war versus criminal activity conducted under the guise of warfare. The UCMJ is designed to attempt to ensure justice is done in each case, regardless of public opinion and pressure (US or foreign) as both of these cases prove. Bruce
     
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    Bruce, you are correct. I had gotten the two cases confused. Thanks for the clarification.
     
    #10 Magnetic Poles, Apr 27, 2007
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    Certainly if these Marines are innocent, as it appears they are, they should be released immediately!
     
    #11 Terry_Herrington, Apr 28, 2007
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    Ferret out these Pentagon stool pigeons and subject them to the same level of prosecution.
     
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    Murtha, who's unamerican activities in his quest for GWB's destruction, utilizing these tactics against our fighting men, should pay an appropriate price.
     
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    Thank you loyal leftist governmental employees, Congressmen, and willing accomplices in the media, for aiding and abetting the enemy.
     
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    The "Government" in this case are the leftist b------'s dedicated to destroying GWB even at the expense of the nation and brave soldiers.
     
    #15 hillclimber1, Apr 28, 2007
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    If you take this case and the case of the border patrol agents sent to prison, it paints a clear picture of the leadership in place now. Prosecute those who are protecting us because the leaders do not have the backbone to stand up for what is right.
     
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    Why would the prosecution require "damage control"? Something simple like admitting that new evidence has completely changed their case
     
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    Who are these traitors? Prosecute them, each and every one.
     
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    Investigate Keane, and WKRN's statements
     
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    The American people deserve to know these facts and the treasonous complicities of each and every wrong doer in this matter. If this administration would seek justice in this thing, and they won't, it would act as a check in the future.

    Thank you Carpro!
     
    #20 hillclimber1, Apr 28, 2007
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