Catholic Taliban?

What is your point?

What is not as it seems?

 

So of course, he is lying! I knew you would say that.

As far as Hindus being upset with missionaries and wanting them out. Can you blame them? Look what how those missionaries are behaving. Hiring GOONS to beat people into converting! How terrible!

 

What difference does that make?

It was their service.

Are you now dictating what services other churches are allowed to hold?

Does their church building become a public forum for political protestors because their service does not meet your standard?

You still haven't explained to me what your church would do if a disruptive outside refused to leave - other than man handling him.

What if he kept coming back into the building after the enforcers put him out?

 

Yes, you would use physical assault rather than call for the lawful authorities.

Not a good Christian witness.

But you would just love to have video of Catholics physically removing a disrupter from their church.

You could add that to your list of Catholic attrocities.

I will pray for a softening of your heart.

 

What difference does that make?

Are there church services which can be disrupted by protestors and some church services which cannot be disrupted by protestors.

Are you some kind of pope that gets to dictate what church services other churches are allowed to hold?

And were the protestors outside of the church arrested? Is that "no"?

Apparently the law of the Philippines disagrees with you as to whether this guy broke the law or not. And apparently if he went to jail the court thought that he deserved it.

Too bad for you that you are not in charge of the laws in the Philippines - huh?

No, you have not told me what you or your church would do if a protestor refused to leave or returned after your enforcers physically assaulted him and bodily ejected him from the building

So let me understand your position.

A church looses the Biblical right of excommunicating a member of the church for cause if that person happens to be a politician?

DHK - you really have to start thinking before typing.

 

DHK, back when I was a student at California Baptist University, there was a student there that stood outside the entrance of a Catholic Church with a bull-horn during mass shouting towards the building "Mary didn't die for your sins, Jesus isn't on the cross anymore!" until the police finally came and arrested him for disturbing the peace. As this wasn't his first time doing this nonsense he served 30 days in jail and CBU expelled him. None of his punishment was the doing of the Catholic Church. In fact, the pastor of the Catholic Church wrote a letter to CBU saying that he and his parish understand the students actions and forgave him.

Did he deserve to go to jail? Did he derserve to be expelled by a Baptist University?

 

Then what was your point in regards to this discussion?

You and I don't set the law in the Philippines.

This guy broke their law.

He was arrested by their police.

He was put in their jail.

You are the one who seems to not understand the law - but then you don't seem to understand much of anything that you read as evidenced by your posts in this thread.

And how did the Catholic Church set the punishment? Be precise.

And there it is - because you do not agree with this particular law - and you do not agree with the enforcement of it...

Then it must be the Catholic Church that is responsible.

I would say that your logic is poor - but there is no logic present in your opinion.

But you have an opinion as to how this situation should have been handled.

Why do you not have an opinion as to how your church would handle such a situation?

I can answer for you - because it would have to be one of two options:

Either your church enforcers would escalate the level of physical force used against such a person who would disturb your church activites

Or your church would call the police.

Either answer undercut your whole assinine Taliban slander.

And that is exactly the word for what you are doing here - slander.

It is not Christian and it is definitely unseemly.

Prove me wrong then.

Does a church have the Biblical right to excommunicate a member for cause even if that person happens to be a politician?

 

Because they pressed charges - which is their right?

As I said before - the articles that you have posted don't say what you think.

I can't help you there.

This politician is publicly acting contrary to the teachings of the church of which he is a member.

A church has the right to excommunicate a member that openly defies the beliefs held by that church.

It is not a non sequitor - it is on point.

You are simply unable to see it because you are blinded by your hatred of Catholics.

Everyone here can see it.

 

Cedron's arrest for breaking the law is your basis for slandering the Catholic Church with your Taliban nonsense.

Cedron is an advocate against abortion?????

Where are you getting this?

The Catholic Church is the party that is always an advocate against abortion.

Cedron is pushing for government sponsoring of contraception.

He is pushing for a bill and supporting a position that is directly contrary to the teachings of the church to which he belongs.

Scripture provides for the excommunication of a member is such a situation.

Why don't you answer my very direct question - does a church loose the Scriptural remedy of excommunication of a member for cause simply because that person is a politician?

Does your hate of Catholics get priority over Scripture here?

 

Targus said: "You are the one who seems to not understand the law - but then you don't seem to understand much of anything that you read as evidenced by your posts in this thread".

Boy, ain't that the truth. DHK would NEVER have provided the link he provided for his 'proof' of 'murders of St. Francis Xavier' had he realized it provided evidence of beatings and murders going on right now in India by fundamentalist like himself. What hypocricsy!