CBS and Democratic Lies--not even good lies

Links containing this information was already provided to you and you ignored it, for obvious reasons. Why would it be different this time?

 

Do you have some names now? Tell us about it.

 

(Barbarian again requests names of Kerry campaign officials concurrently working for 527s)

So you don't know of any? Neither did Larry. Imagine that. We let Larry go for weeks with his "I posted that before" stuff. Not again.

If you do find a name, let us know.

 

You haven't shown that Kerry's campaign was responsible for this.

Nevertheless, it seems to have worked. After months of Swiftvet baloney, now all of a sudden it's irrelevant what happened 30 or 35 years ago. Funny that.

 

Daisy, I suspect we're about to get another round of "I already gave you that evidence."

But we won't ever see it.

Some things never change.

 

Yes you are right. Some things never change. Once again, you prove yourself to be either a poor reader or intentionally dishonest. I did give you the evidence. YOu simply ignored it. You did not even bother to comment on it. But here's more:

http://georgewbush.com/KerryMediaCenter/Read.aspx?ID=3367

# Bob Bauer Of Perkins Coie Is Legal Counsel To Both Kerry Campaign And America Coming Together (ACT). (Jim Rutenberg And Kate Zernike, "Veteran's Group Had GOP Lawyer," The New York Times, 8/25/04)

* Kerry Campaign Paid Bauer's Law Firm, Perkins Coie, $360,244.28 For Legal Services And Other Expenses. (Federal Election Commission Records, www.fec.gov, Accessed 8/5/04)
* America Coming Together (ACT) Paid Bauer's Law Firm, Perkins Coie, $176,732 For Legal Services And Other Expenses. (Political Money Line Website, www.tray.com, Accessed 8/5/04)

Minyon Moore, A Kerry Campaign Consultant, Serves On Executive Committee Of America Coming Together. (Glen Johnson, "Kerry To Press 'Environmental Justice,'" The Boston Globe, 4/22/03; Lisa Getter, "Kerry Aided By 'Illegal' Soft Money, GOP Claims," Los Angeles Times, 4/1/04)

Don't Forget The Dewey Square Group Provides Political Consulting Services For Both Kerry Campaign And America Coming Together (ACT).

* Kerry Campaign Has Paid Dewey Square Group $194,936.48 For Political Consulting And Other Expenses. (Federal Election Commission Records, www.fec.gov, Accessed 8/5/04)
* America Coming Together (ACT) Has Paid Dewey Square Group $51,808 For Political Consulting And Other Expenses. (Political Money Line Website, www.tray.com, Accessed 8/5/04)
* At Least Four Kerry Advisors Are Associated With Dewey Square Group: Michael Whouley, Jill Alper, Minyon Moore And Joe Ricca. (Glen Johnson, "Kerry To Press 'Environmental Justice,'" The Boston Globe, 4/22/03; Dewey Square Group Website, http://www.deweysquare.com/, Accessed 2/5/04; Peter Grier, "How Kerry Turned The Corner," Christian Science Monitor, 2/5/04; Glen Johnson and John Aloysius Farrell, "Kerry's New-Look Campaign Relies On A Few Key Players," The Boston Globe, 1/9/03)

There are clear connections. The fact that you won't take the time to read about them is not my fault. I have posted the information, as have others. Your modus operandi is ignore them and then claim they were never there. We have seen this before from you. And you were proven wrong then. You will be proven wrong here again.

Don't you get tired of being on the wrong side of so many issues? This is a problem that is easily fixed. Will you step up to the plate and fix it?

 

I wish they would. Oh, how I wish they would! Instead, right now, they're going to try and save face...but with a face that only a mother could love, why don't they "CAN DAN"!?!

AVL1984

 

OK, off the top of your heads, experts, define or answer the following:

Been a long time. Let's see how I do...

1. A gallon of prop wash

2. A foot of flightline

3. A quart of grid-leak-bias

What you sent the slick-sleeve to supply to get.

4. A Flap

What happened when Bush realized that they hadn't gotten all of his guard records sanitized. Alternately, an adjustable device on a wing to increase lift.

5. A spoiler

Ralph Nader. Alternately, a device to reduce lift.

6. The proper type screws to install on the wingtip of a C-141B

I didn't even know they had wings.

7. The difference between AWOL and FTR

Bush went AWOL. He didn't go in his FTR after he went AWOL.

8. TDY, FTD, RT Unit, Demand Processing,

Temporary duty. Otherwise known as a "temporary suspension of marriage". RT was the recon unit.

9. MAC, SAC, TAC, ATC, what were they, and what are their successor units?

Military Airlift Command, Strategic Air Command, Tactical Air Command, training command.
I got out before they changed them.

10. "Six Turnin' and Four Burnin' describes what kind of aircraft?

B-36 Peacemaker with six turboprop engines in the wings, and four jets in pairs on pylons.

11. What was a thunder-thud?

More commonly, just "thud", the F-105 Thunderchief. My former boss flew them in Vietnam. Too primitive to use "smart bombs", thud units said they had dumb bombs and smart pilots.

12. What is the essential difference between a J-57 and a TF 33?

J-57 was a jet engine.

13. The only model B-52 still flying is the ___ model.

I dunno. I think they were all still flying when I got out. WFTH-I

14. Which model of B-52 could carry the most conventional ordinance?

Dunno.

15. Pilots wrote up maintenance discrepancies in forms _________

Should remember that, but I don't.
16. What fighter aircraft most physically resembled the F-102?
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Yer none too pretty yerself.

How about a link to the post where he gave the links? Larry posts a lot - so much so that any one particular post is hard to find without a key.

 

And the look-alike?

F-106

 

Face it, you don't know what you are talking about!

So, how much time have you spent either in the Guard or Reserves in the 1970s, or in the active military dealing with them? I dealt with reserves and guard troops for over 20 years. Since I was a young sergeant in the early to mid '70s, I worked weekends, and on "weekend warrior weekend" at our joint active-reserve base, I dealt with reserve stuff constantly. I am going to try to use basic concepts, so you can understand.

1. AWOL is not AWOL unless someone is charged with it. Bush was not charged, so he was not AWOL. Had they considered him AWOL, they would have charged him. They did not. He was not.

2. Had he been AWOL for real, he would have been charged. Forget daddy's influence--Texas state government in those days was Democratic, not GOP!

3. No doubt he had verbal permission to not show up--in those days, the guard and reserve were that loose--it was easily taken care of by a phone call. It is kind of like calling off work. You don't get your drill pay, you don't get your points, ho hum. When he was in AL, he did not have a real job anyway, since his kind of aircraft were not there. The physical, again, was not needed, since he was not on flying status in AL.

4. He was also ahead on points. He had enough active duty points (because he flew a lot of intercepts, etc. in his earlier service) to get out six months early--he had the points, that is what counted for guard time.

5. He was honorably discharged. That means that he completed his service. Forget forged memos, forget speculation, forget the ridiculous spectacle of people examining flight logs with a fine tooth comb who wouldn't know a flap from a spoiler. He has a properly executed DD 214 saying he was honorably discharged. </font>[/QUOTE]You're the one who's unfortunately not in touch with reality. Bush has gotten away with a lot of things. I don't care what the military calls it but Bush refused a direct order to show up for his physical and he didn't bother to show up for long periods of time. What do you want to call that?

 

Remember, Bush was under the TCMJ, which does not include "failure to repair." It merely defines AWOL in a number of ways, including failing to appear as ordered.

Bush was AWOL under the TCMJ, which governed the TANG.

I separated in 1978, BTW, and had been assigned to an immunology department of a medical center. Most of what I know about maintainence and flight line ops came from being the Medical member of the PRIME BEEF team.

As you can see, it wasn't a lot.

I don't guess the starlifter was even on line when I was in.