celebrating EASTER is an insult to Christ

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  1. wopik

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    Easter began long before the time of Christ.

    Easter is the Ishtar celebration.

    Ishtar, Astarte, Ashtoreth were all the same. It was a single pagan goddess that was worshiped, under various names, in different countries over the centuries.


    Because sunrise on Sunday morning, at the beginning of spring, was next to December 25th, the holiest day in the Mithraic calendar, the prac­tice of Easter sunrise services continued on into Christianity.

    Because Mithra was worshiped on the first day of the week, which the Persians and Ro­mans called the sun day, Sunday sacredness ­which is nowhere to be found in the Bible — came into the Christian church.


    http://www.present-truth.org/Easter-2a.htm
     
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    Why am I not surprised? :rolleyes:
     
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    Wait, shouldn't we be bashing St. Valentine's Day and St. Patrick's Day first?
     
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    No, it is more fun to disturb the conscience of good Christian people by calling them a pagan because they want to celebrate the resurrection on a specific day.
     
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    As I remember, Jesus arose EARLY in the morning on the FIRST DAY of the week. Would seem a good reason for Resurrection Day sunrise services, don't you think?

    Now all of the stuff the WORLD has added to Easter, chicks and bunnies, eggs, etc., THAT has roots in the pagan celebrationo you speak of. But even those things can be used to speak of Jesus' resurrection and our NEW LIFE in Him, now can't it?

    Redeem the Day!
     
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    Since I don't worship pagen deities, I cannot be accused of idolatry by commemorating Christ's resurrection, whether it's on Easter Sunday, or any other day.
     
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    I have never seen anyone confessing that he or she is worshipping pagan deities, except those who do not even know the concept of pagan.
    However, in reality there are many among the nominal Christians worshipping many pagan gods, like Money God, Goddess Mary, god of this world, etc. actually.

    They expect that they would be welcomed by Jesus, but He warns it by saying:

    Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

    That's why Paul says:

    2Cr 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
     
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    I'm not one of them. The fact that I commemorate Christmas and Easter is by no means an indicator of doing so, either. Anyone who accuses me of such is a false accuser who needs to repent of their false accusation.
     
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    I would rather tolerate if anyone celebrate Pasxa as Resurrection Day without calling Easter, because Word Easter came from Ishtar.

    In some other countries I noticed Resurrection Day.
     
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    I really shouldn't have to post this, but it appears to be necessary, not that the legalists on this board will get the point.

    Romans 14:5-6

    One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
     
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    Here we go again. The same old nonsense. No wonder the world at large frowns on fundamentalist Christianity!!!!!!

    Cheers, and bless the Lord, He is risen, and I happen to celebrate that fact especially on Easter Sunday, according to the Anglican Church calendar,

    Jim
     
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    We celebrate our risen Lord. I do not believe it is an insult to Him at all. I am sure the two women were in a very joyful spirit when they carried the news to the disciples that Christ was risen indeed!

    Our hearts should be joyous daily at this great news. And if a body of believers chooses to have special services to recognize this joyous occasion, I say let them!

    Some people only go to church on Christmas Sunday and Easter Sunday. It would be a shame to take those holidays away and see those not come to church at all. I think those days we should be preaching Christ coming into the world as Savior, and Christ rising from the dead as Redeemer!
     
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    I know this has a tricky start. Often pagan worshippers excuse it with Romans 14:5 in which Paul mentions a certain background of legalistic customs, not the contamination with pagan worship.
    If you read about Acts 12:3-4 you may have a glimpse of the fact. In case of Christmas, the date has no ground at all because Birthday of Jesus must be during Apr-Oct and interestingly Dec 25 is the birthday of Horus, Egyptian god.

    In case of Easter, the date falls on the almost same day as Passover week, because Ishtar Festival was on the 15th day of Full Moon after vernal equinox lasting 8 days too, while Pesach or Pasach was 14th of the same month lasting 8 days.
    So it is really difficult to distinguish between Resurrection Day and Easter(Ishtar Day).

    If the people really want to celebrate Resurrection of the Lord, then they should call the day as Resurrection Day, not as Easter which is the English transliteration from Ishtar.

    As for Ishtar Day, you can find here:

    http://www.dragonrest.net/histories/ishtar.html


    http://www.ishtartemple.org/history.htm


    http://www.ishtartemple.org/sacredIshtar.htm


    As for Biblical comments you can find :
    http://dshortt.homestead.com/files/a_study_into___easter__lent__chrstmas__the_cross.html


    Easter was not observed by the Apostles:

    http://www.bibleanswer.com/easter2.htm


    Pagan Origin of Easter:

    http://www.rightdivision.com/html/easter_pagan_influences.html


    Webster Dictionary Origin of Word for Easter:

    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes%3Bread=31275
     
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    Amen to that Jim. I am growing weary of people trying to weigh down the consciences of other Christians because the find the celebrations of Christmas and Easter offensive. If they can not celebrate these days because of it may destroy their faith so be it, I will not force them, but it would be nice if they accorded their stronger brothers and sisters the same courtesy.

    Does anybody besides me realize how ridiculous this statement is? :eek:
    If the links provided are to believed then Ishtar is Babylonian and the Babylonian alphabet does not resemble the alphabet we use today or the alphabet used by the KJV translators. This all means that Ishtar itself is an English transliteration of the Babylonian word.
     
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    At our church, we worship on both the day it really happened and the day that the world has set aside. However, on the day the world has set aside, we still worship in a Christian manner, avoiding bunnies, dyed eggs, etc.
     
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    This a little aside, but of interest, I think, about how the world enters the Christian's world. When the telly first came on the scene, the Plymouth Brethren would not have one in their household. It was of the devil, they said, and not biblical. Then, they decided that when Jesus returns, "every eye would see Him." How would this be possible if the world is a globe? Perhaps this is where the telly can be used....every eye could see Him on the telly. Well, the telly started to show up even in PB's homes............

    Cheers,

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    If you deny returning to the name of the day calling Resurrection Day, then it means that you deny that you are celebrating the day as a memorial for Resurrection of the Lord.

    The Word Easter is not meant in the Bible as a memorial for Resurrection, because King Herod didn't beilieve in Jesus.
    Apparently Easter is a kind of Transliteration from German "Oster" which is from Ishtar too.
    Ishtar is an Assyrian name of Astaroth.

    If you really celebrate the Day of Resurrection, then you should call it Resurrection Day.
     
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    Jim, We don't know about how Lord will appear exactly. Our human calculation doesn't work. He may show up quickly on one side then move to the other side in nano second. Otherwise, He has not got out of this gallaxy even though He ascended in the speed of light.
    I think His show up will not depend on human device or telly.

    You can see that by accepting this and that customs, we become quickly lukewardm, which we should avoid.
     
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    What does that have to do with anything? Herod didn't even celebrate passover because he wasn't a jew. Why the KJV translators decided to translate pasca as Easter will remain a mystery, but that also is a moot point.

    What is important is that in the Christian church Easter is synymous with resurrection and has nothing to do with an idol named ishtar. Anybody, can see that the Easter celebrations in the Christian Church have nothing to do with any pagan religions, so I seriously doubt there is any confusion on the subject. The only people who seem to care are legalists who wish to burden the souls of Christians with extra laws and atheists who wish to disturb and discredit Christians. So, I will call it what I will and ask you once again to quit trying to impose your extra-biblical legalism on other people.
     
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    1. Do you know the origin of Word "Easter" ?
    If the origin is wrong, at any time we discover something wrong, then we should rectify it.
    If you want to stck to the wrong word nevertheless, then you are confessing your strong desire for paganism.

    2. If you disagree, it is OK. This board is free for everybody and you don't have to participate here. I will preach the truth so that people can return to the right worship of True God. Please leave me ! I am not forcing you !
     

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