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Challenge: Prove there are Errors in a King James Bible

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by AVBunyan, Dec 10, 2006.

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  1. Herb Evans

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    You are violating the Challeger's rule. He did not ask for a comparison. He asked for "A" KJB. -- Herb Evans
     
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    Logos1560]How is that the point when the Scriptures in the original languages was the Bible given by inspiration of God?

    Now, how do you know that except from a Bible that has errors in it? -- Herb Evans

    Use of the preserved Scriptures in the original languages [the claimed underlying original language texts for the KJV] as the standard or authority for the making and evaluating of all translations is not actually going outside the Bible. It seems that one result or logical consequence of this challenge would undermine the very original language foundations on which the derived authority of the KJV depends.

    How do you know what the original languages were? And are you saying that the Hebrew and Greek do not have errors. What manuscript are you reading? Or are you reading a composite of the Greek and hebrew created by men? Are you reading the Hebrew without vowel points or the Hebrew with vowel points? -- Herb Evans
     
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    No, the Challenfger was more specific than that. -- Herb Evans
     
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    I was not trying to prove error in the KJB; I was answering someone who was. No one was asking for a verification of KJB versus KJB. -- Herb Evans
     
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    Each one of the current KJV editions from which renderings were taken is "a" KJV.
     
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    The Challenger did not ask for counter challenges; that can be done on another thread. The challenger gave a standard, "A" KJB. And you do not have the original manuscripts nor have you ever seen them nor would you know them if you saw them. Morever, any challenge is invalid to those who cannot handle them. -- Herb Evans
     
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    Your questions do not answer the valid statement that your seeming to imply that any use of the original language texts that underlie the KJV would be going outside the Bible would be an invalid claim.

    Use of the preserved Scriptures in the original languages [the claimed underlying original language texts for the KJV] as the standard or authority for the making and evaluating of all translations is not actually going outside the Bible.
     
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    Do you know the Farmer in the dale or ol' Mcdonald had a farm. -- Herb Evans
     
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    Brother Bunyan is proving his case by all you rule breakers trying to inject everything else but what he asked for to create a soap box for what you do not agree with. Par for the course. he has deprived you of all your error finding support tools as if you were on a desolated island with nothing but your King Jame Bible, just as man POW's in enemy prisons.-- Herb Evans
     
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    Obviously, this can't be done. Any more than ..

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    So what is the point?
     
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    Of course, the challenger did not ask for counter challenges since he did not want his challenge exposed as invalid. The challenger did not name and identify a specific standard of which of the several varying present KJV editions is the only one he considers to be "a" KJV. Since he did not name a specific KJV edition, any one and thus all KJV editions would seem to be acceptable. Are you suggesting that this challenger is infallible so that his challenge and reasoning cannot be questioned and examined?

    The preserved Scriptures in the original languages on which the KJV is said to be based still exist. The pre-1611 English Bibles of which the KJV was a revision still exist.
     
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    All you have done is flung a verse; state the error! -- Herb Evans
     
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    The Challenger did not ask for definitions, he asked for errors. Do you hereby call that an error and why? -- Herb Evans
     
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    Bunyan has thrown us a red herring.

    The whole thread is totally irrelevant as the test could be applied to any version or any book at all.
     
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    There are lots of comments defending the original challenge which is not a valid challenge at all, but since he was also challenged AVBunyan, the originator of this ridiculous challenge, seems to have fallen strangely silent. Maybe he's beginnig to realize how ridiculous the original challenge really is since the ball has been placed in his own court to prove error in the MVs by comparing them only to themselves. At least those who are not onlyists are showing how ridiculousa the challenge really is, while the original challenger remains mute.

    :laugh: :tonofbricks: :BangHead:
     
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    I believe that is a modification of the challenge; the chalenger was more specific than that! -- Herb Evans
     
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    And is it ever smelling!
     
  18. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Okay - please see post #50 above.
     
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    Well, choose one not several. -- Herb Evans
     
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    I implied nothing. I directly asked you how you know what the original languages were. I also asked you if the Hebrew and Greek had any errors? You evaded both question. here's another. What if you have a bad standard to evaluate the KJB? Again you are violating the Challenger's rule. -- Herb Evans
     
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