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Changing my mind?

Discussion in 'Free-For-All Archives' started by NaasPreacher (C4K), Aug 6, 2004.

  1. Stratiotes

    Stratiotes New Member

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    Fear should never be allowed to rule our conscience. If you are voting for one because you fear the other, then it is most certainly a wasted vote and not a vote of conscience. I understand the fear but I think we have to recognize it for what it is.
     
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    NaasPreacher (C4K) Well-Known Member

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    I really dislike Bush's homosexual agenda. I just don't know if I can vote for four more years of that.

    ARRGGHH!
     
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    My wife voted for George W. Bush in 2000, I voted for Howard Phillips in 2000. This year my wife said that after seeing what he has done for the last four years, she will not vote for him again, but will be voting for Michael Peroutka in November.
     
  4. church mouse guy

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    One fringe benefit of being in war is that the chips are down and everyone can say exactly what he thinks. If the war in Iraq is illegal, then should not Bush be tried in the World Court for war crimes against humanity?
     
  5. NaasPreacher (C4K)

    NaasPreacher (C4K) Well-Known Member

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    How did Iraq enter the discussion?
     
  6. church mouse guy

    church mouse guy Well-Known Member
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    You say that you are considering voting for Peroutka, who says that the war in Iraq is illegal. If Peroutka is correct that the war in Iraq is illegal, then by logic, Bush is a war criminal and should be tried for war crimes in order to see that there are no more illegal wars. Have you looked at the CP platform? Do you agree that all foreign aid should be ended as Peroutka suggests? Do you just vote on the basis of physical beauty?
     
  7. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Yes, I read through the platform today. Nope, I don't agree with everything and I don't vote on the basis of physical beauty (don't knwo where that came from).

    However, I HATE the Bush homosexual agenda! Can I vote for four more years of shameful homosexual appointments? I really don't know.
     
  8. mioque

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    "If the war in Iraq is illegal, then should not Bush be tried in the World Court for war crimes against humanity? "
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    Neither Iraq nor the USA have ratified the International Criminal Court treaty (the Statute of Rome), so no the ICC has no reason to get involved.
     
  9. church mouse guy

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    Maybe the World Court could try Bush in absentia. We can't have war criminals starting illegal wars, can we?

    I can't see that the homosexual agenda since the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah is as serious as the war against Islamofascism or the abolition of foreign aid, but then I am lucky enough to live in Indiana and not heathen Europe.
     
  10. NaasPreacher (C4K)

    NaasPreacher (C4K) Well-Known Member

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    I am certainly glad to hear that homosexuality is not problem in IndianA. Amen!

    How about heathen Massachusetts and heathen Washington State?
     
  11. church mouse guy

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    Didn't mean to say that it was not a problem in Indiana. Would not advise you to wander around Massachusetts Avenue in downtown Indianapolis. What I was trying to say was that the agenda, part of the Democrat party, was lower ranking than the issues of war, the illegality of the war, the possibility that Bush is guilty of war crimes according to the logical conclusion of Peroutka's plank, and the abolition of foreign aid. Frankly, I wish gays and lesbians would go back in the closet. I am tired of hearing about them and their perpetual problems, medical and psychological.
     
  12. Stratiotes

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    It sounds more and more to me like Indiana is way outside of reality altogether. I've been to "heathen Europe" and all over the US from San Fransisco to the Cape in Mass - frankly, I can't tell a whole lot of difference except that Americans tend more often to live in a dream world where they are not the same as everybody else. People are very much the same in core values, no matter what flag happens to flutter over their heads. There are very few exceptions to that general rule.
     
  13. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Wow Strat - you can tell that you are not bound by Americocentricity. Thanks for the observation.
     
  14. church mouse guy

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    No wonder you two fly foreign flags!
     
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    If George W. Bush doesn't win Alabama easily then that will mean he will lose nationally in a landslide.

    Therefore, if one wants to vote one's conscience by voting for a minor party candidate, there will certainly be no harm in doing so. If a few thousand votes for a minor party candidate costs Mr. Bush Alabama's electoral votes, it won't matter as he will have been trounced nationwide.

    I think you will be quite safe in voting for Mr. Peroutka, C4K. In fact, if Mr. Bush is going to win re-election he will win Alabama very easily. If you vote for Mr. Bush it really won't mean anything except that he probably wins Alabama by 250,001 votes instead of 250,000 votes.
     
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    Vote your conscience. Doesn't matter if it's Bush, Kerry, Peroutka, Nader, Pat Paulsen, or Mickey Mouse.

    Vote YOUR conscience, not someone else's conscience. Don't allow someone else to make your vote for you. They'd just be getting you to vote their conscience.

    I don't care whom you vote for. Just vote.
     
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    That wold mean repealing all the amendments to the Constitution. The return of slavery, the stripping of women's voting, etc. No free speech, no right to assemble. No thanks.

    I'm happy with the Republic that we have become today. I'm not happy with all the decisions our elected officials make, nor am I always happy with the decisions all of us individuals make, but I'm happy with the Republic form of government we have.
     
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    No. The US is not beholden to any other governmental body.
     
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    "Maybe the World Court could try Bush in absentia. We can't have war criminals starting illegal wars, can we?"
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    The World Court only gets to prosecute crimes that were committed in a country that signed the ICC treaty. Bush can commit whatever warcrimes he wants both in Iraq and in the US, since neither nation's government has ratified the treaty. Ofcourse the American courtsystem might get involved if tapes of him flogging nubile Iraqi women surface.
     
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    My thoughts, too, Rod.
     
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