Charles Stanley?

Sorry, Charles Stanley is unscriptural because he violated the Word of God.

 

Having a good voice does not make one a good pastor or preacher. Sadly, that is all Stanley has.

His sermons are weak and shallow...his church's ministry reflects that. (Numbers mean very little.)

This is alos shown in his doctrinal compromises, most notably his view on women pastors. But, hey, if you have to re-interpret those pastoral passages to justify staying in ministry after divorce then of course you will allow women to be ministers. I am suprised he doesn't permit gay ministers, heck, he may. I doubt it, but if he had a consistent hermeneutic he would.

Andy, as far as I have heard, is not too fond of his pops' decision to stay in ministry. (Yay Andy.) But, I am not too fond of Andy'd ministry style either...but that is another discussion.

 

An accusation without an explanation is not beneficial to the discussion.

~Lorelei

Hello,.....try ITimothy 3:4,5 He has disqualified himself to pastor any church.

 

I've got a personal rule of thumb that keeps me sane. I generally don't have a problem with religious broadcasts that are pretty much airings of church services. I absolutely don't like religious "variety" type shows, like the former Oral Roberts type, or those set in a studio, like Hal Lindsay or Pat Robertson (I'm sure they have their niche, but I just don't acre for them). Needless to say, I care very little for TBN type programming.

But again, if someone else finds spiritual value in them, then who am I to tell them otherwise?

 

Diane,

I don't know much of anything about Andy Stanley. However, if your cousin has a "boyfriend" who is "in the process of getting a divorce" then I would say that neither her nor his opinion about spiritual matters carries much weight.

Mark Osgatharp

 

Mark O., Agree!
Diane

 

I agree, but pretty much every public preacher has been called a false teacher. Charles Stanley, Jerry Falwell, Adrian Rogers, D James Kennedy, Robert Schuller, Bill Hybels, John Hagee, Jack Hayford, to name a few. In every one of those men, they all espouse at least one thing that I disagree with, or find no spiritual value in, but someone else might find spiritual value in them. If the Holy Spirit is using these men, then it is not for me to judge based on the fact that the Holy Spirit isn't using them to speak to me. Usually, when I find myself doing so, it is not because they're doing something ungodly, but because they're soing something that I wouldn't do in the same manner.

 

I have struggled with Charles' divorce and his staying in the ministry. I do think there is a difference between being a pastor and a preacher (evangelist), I know he is the Pastor of 1st Baptist in ATlanta, BUT he isn't MY pastor and I find his teaching to be very beneficial. I do not think his messages are weak or shallow as JGrayhound says. Ask Jo said:

Cringe ok everyone who has violated scripture... out of the pool! Hey there is no one left!

 

Oh man, you did such a good job of hitting all the nails on the head

 

I have read Charles Stanley's books for many years; and in fact, some were very instrumental in my conversion. The bible is my first authority, but I have found his teachings to be very practical in helping me to live my faith.

Like all of us, he has has flaws; but as far as I can tell, he is sincerely doing all he can to lead others to Christ.

God Bless!

Priscilla Ann

 

Not the same thing...and you know it.

 

Correct!

 

An accusation without an explanation is not beneficial to the discussion.

~Lorelei </font>[/QUOTE]He has double standards because he did not follow the Biblical principle. Did he obey the Word of God?

 

Unless someone is a member of Charles Stanley's congregation, it isn't anyone's business whether he is qualified to be a pastor or not. That's up to that particular congregation to decide. And then based on their decision you can decide if you want to fellowship with the members of that congregation or listen to Charles Stanley's preaching via TV, radio, or written publication.

This can be argued over endlessly but unless you are a member where he pastors, you're just flapping your gums with no real import.

 

I must say I agree with Ken here. The Baptist Distinctive of local autonomy gives his congregation the right to decide if he's qualified to be their pastor. Furthermore, they have the right guaranteed by the Distinctives to interpret biblical requirements for a pastor as they feel called.

IMO, every church has that right, not just the Baptists.