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Discussion in 'Politics' started by poncho, Mar 23, 2006.
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Anyone ever see the results of the crash investigation - Pentagon?
haven't seen results, but I have a video produced by Alex Jones... 'In Plane Sight' that really raises some questions.
If it's the one I'm thinking about, I've seen the video, and it's ridiculous, frankly.
Simple mathematics disprove the crux of the "proof." There's a single frame of a video showing the plane prior to impact with the Pentagon. The point of the video is the smudge on the frame is too small to be a jetliner.
This, of course, ignores the fact that a frame of video records 1/30 of a second of time, and an airplane going 300+ miles per hour would move some distance in 1/30 of a second... causing most of the mass to appear a tiny "smudge" on the frame.
So I'm waiting on more evidence from a less shrill source before I change my take on it all.
Charlie Sheen will find lots of company among the conspiracy nuts on this Forum.
It was an airplane that was hijacked and piloted by terrorists and that was flown right into the Pentagon. Two more were likewise flown into the World Trade Center. One more may have been likewise flown into the White House, or some other spectacular target, if it hadn't been stopped, we believe, by some heroic persons on board.
What's the purpose of a conspiracy theory that attempts to alter these facts?
Charlie Sheen is hardly a "highly credible public figure" for questioning the official story of 9/11!
Platoon, by the way, was a sorry movie and a poor representation of the typical American soldier or Marine in the Viet Nam war.
The worm is turning.
I tested the ability to place cellphone calls flying over PA. I was unable to get dial tone from cruising altitude (30,000 feet) down to about 1,000 feet just before we landed. I'd say I try at least 25 times. Based on my own testing I believe that those stories about passengers on the flight that crashed in PA placing cellphone calls to their families a fabrication (a nice way of saying it was a lie).
Similar experiments were done by an engineering professor in Canada. He came up with the same conclusion.
Sheen Shocker! Covered By CNN. (real player 10:04)
Do you really think I'd spend 10 minutes listening to Charlie Sheen expound Alex Jones nonsense? I don't care if his daddy is president.
Two more shockers!
Alex Jones on CNN Showbiz Tonight.
CNN quick vote poll. 78% agree with Charlie Sheen at time of posting!
the other 22% must be on Baptist Board. lol
I admit, I enjoy watching the X-Files, but come on! It's fiction! Just like these conspiracy nuts who are trying to make these ridiculous claims. It's just like those nuts who are trying to claim that jet fuel couldn't bring down the WTC. They make assumptions with no basis in reality, and/or twist physics to some sort of SF "reality".
CNN quick vote poll update 80% now agree with Charlie Sheen at time of this posting.
2% just defected.
Maybe their worm just turned.
I thought it was a Dave Vonkleist production. He carries another video called Beyond Treason. Veterans can get free copies by faxing Dave.
CNN poll is up to 82% in agreement with Charlie Sheen this morning.
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I hope they are because they help aerate the soil and that helps make things grow better.
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"We have found strong evidence that the "terrorist attacks" of that day were essentially staged events in which the main elements were aircraft substitution and the controlled demolition of the WTC towers. Our conclusions are now certain enough to be shared with the media - without fear of any meaningful contradictions. The evidence and its analysis are available at the Panel's website:
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Poncho, my friend, that's what this poll claims but, hopefully, at least 78% of all cognizant Americans know better. If they don't, then I suppose it proves that Americans have, indeed, been watching too much fiction television and will believe anything. Many, I guess, do worship the idols of television as if they were real people doing real things in real life. After all, a lot of people don't believe Jesus was born of a virgin, don't believe that he actually died and then overcame that physical death in His resurrection, believe that "good" people become angles when they die, etc. Why then would it be such a big surprise that a lot of them believe some crazy story by Charlie Sheen?