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China's Tallest Building Catches Fire, Does Not Collapse

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Rufus_1611, Aug 16, 2007.

  1. Hope of Glory

    Hope of Glory New Member

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    WTC 7 didn't collapse from fire only, but on to 1 & 2 and your statement:

    How many other steel framed skyscrapers have had thousands of gallons of jet fuel poured into them with a furnace-like draft to superheat the steel frame and cause the loss of structural integrity?

    I have done advanced firefighting. Even diesel fires will cause steel structures to collapse. You don't have to melt it, just weaken it.

    Now, as far as WTC 7 goes, did you see the damage to it caused by the collapes of the other two buildings?
     
  2. poncho

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    HaH! :laugh: Sorry Bro, that was just the funniest thing I've read today.
     
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  3. poncho

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    WTC 7 didn't collapse from fire only, but on to 1 & 2 and your statement:

    How come the fire fighters on the scene in the building and up the stairs thought they could "knock the fire down with a couple hoses"? And how could they stand the superheating while talking on the radio?

    Then what caused the molten metal seen pouring out of the side of one of the buildings before it's collapse and in the basement below, for weeks?

    Most of the fuel was burned off when the planes hit the buildings (fire balls) what was left burned for maybe ten minutes or so, black smoke. What does that mean?

    Seen a few. Have you considered the thermal conductivity of 90,000 tons of steel? In other words the steel frames in those buildings were 90,000 ton heat sinks drawing heat away from (cooling) any hotspots into itself then distributing it all along the whole structure. Ask Bro Curtis about heat sinks he's probably used them in his work. Much smaller versions though.
     
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  4. Magnetic Poles

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    Apparently the OP doesn't think so. :BangHead: No surprise there, though.
     
  5. poncho

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    How much fuel was there left to burn inside the buildings after the fuel burned outside the buildings (fire balls) at impact, got any numbers?
     
  6. JustChristian

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    Mr


    No I didn't. I did see the video in which the owner or primary leasor of the building said that he and the fireman decided to "pull it."
     
  7. poncho

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    And then they watched it fall for about 6.5 seconds into it's own footprint.
     
  8. TomVols

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    We've been through this bromide before.
    It's a shame that some "Christians" love to smear so much.
    Never let facts or science get in the way of a good conspiracy theory. :rolleyes:
     
  9. James_Newman

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    There are many things called science that are not science. It is a good way to make folks with common sense feel stupid though.
     
  10. charles_creech78

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    Go to you tupe .com and watch the video of 9-11 Mysteries- world Trade Center Dem... This video really got to me. It is 1:30 minute long. Tell me what you thank after you watch it.
     
  11. Rufus_1611

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    That's an excellent documentary Charles.
     
  12. TomVols

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    Folks who use common sense shouldn't feel stupid. But if "common sense" says to someone that 2+2 doesn't equal 4, then common sense should be jettisoned in favor of logical truisms.
     
  13. charles_creech78

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    It really got to me man.
     
  14. James_Newman

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    See how easy that was? I felt stupid for a minute there. :thumbs:
     
  15. James_Newman

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    Could you post a link? I'm not sure which video I'm supposed to be watching.
     
  16. Ed Edwards

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    Amen, Brother Bro. Curtis -- Preach it!
    :thumbs:


    Strange how all the paranoia press (PP) hang together
    and cross-reference each other, eh?

    I forget how many gallons of aviation fuel it
    takes to go across the country, but I don't
    think 1,000,000 pounds of fuel is more than
    two orders off (i.e. the true answer is somewhere
    between 10,000 pounds and 100 Million pounds.
     
  17. Ed Edwards

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    Here is a more balenced report from Reuters:

    http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/SP326772.htm

    Most of the balenced news reports concern themselves with
    the lives lost instead of the fantasy the paranoiad presss (PP)
    have about USGovernment terrorism :(
     
  18. Ed Edwards

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    C4K:
    yes. Enough fuel was on board to fly
    a plane with over 100 passengers across the
    USofA on a 100-ton aircraft -- this is
    a lot of energy not present in the stuff inside
    most skyscrapers. I think the fuel makes
    a big difference.

    And the source one believes for one's information
    makes a big difference also.
     
  19. Rufus_1611

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    Thanks for posting this link. I am sure it won't change anyone minds.. Some people won't even think of any other possiblitilies other than what they think now.

    People are not openminded enough to review documents/films and then make a decision. They only want to spout off and deflect. Like some of the questions in this thread haven't even been answered....

    Thanks again!

    Jamie
     
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