Chris Wallace Rips Into Jack Lew Obama’s Refusal to Negotiate Is ‘Unprecedented’

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  1. Revmitchell

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    Fox News’ Chris Wallace grilled Treasury Secretary Jack Lew on Sunday, repeatedly asking him questions regarding the president’s refusal to negotiate with Republicans in Congress over the budget.

    “I know the direction is bad,” Lew said about what would happen if the U.S. government defaulted on its debt. “There is a range of how bad. It is irresponsible and it is reckless to take that chance.”

    “Despite these stakes, the president is refusing to negotiate,” Wallace countered, noting presidents have negotiated with Congress in the past over a variety of topics. “What’s unprecedented is not Congress tying strings; what’s unprecedented is a president refusing to negotiate.”

    “Frankly, I think your history is wrong,” Lew said.

    “With all due respect, your history is wrong,” Wallace responded. “This has happened over and over again, and presidents have negotiated.”

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...obamas-refusal-to-negotiate-is-unprecedented/
     
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    Big deal. He's the President. He doesn't have to negotiate if he thinks he's right. He was just re-elected and has nothing to lose. It's the Republicans in Congress who are gonna end up looking bad because they want him to compromise over something that's already a law because they can't figure out another way to get rid of it.

    It's hilarious that folks act like one President has to do something because other Presidents did it.

    Fox and GOP pundits are just upset because they want their side to decide what's negotiable and then say the other side doesn't want to negotiate. Hilarious.

    The GOP says Obamacare has to be on the table. Is it unprecedented that Congress not be negotiate too?

    It would be hilarious if it wasn't so stupid.

    He won't negotiate a budget unless Obamacare is off the table.
    The GOP won't negotiate a budget unless Obamacare is on the table.

    But he's the only one setting a precedent for not negotiating. :laugh:
     
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    We understand that the President is not negotiating. He's not negotiating because he said he wouldn't if ACA is on the table. He said this 2 months ago, 6 weeks ago, 1 month ago, 2 weeks ago, last week, and every day this week. WE GET IT.

    The Republicans are once again losing the publicity battle. This constant whining about Obama not negotiating is getting tiresome. Repubs had a photo op this weekend announcing a Twitter hash tag #LetsTalk. Never in my lifetime did I think politicians could be so lame. As if John Boehner is a Twitter aficionado.
     
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    It is unprecedented that a group of radicals, this being the Tea Party leaning Republicans, holding the whole country hostage. They do not care if they destroy the country.
     
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    Wrong. Two days ago, the Huffington Post ran this poll:


    The gap is narrowing as compared to the days leading up to, and immediately after, the shutdown. Additionally, a Gallup poll last week showed the Great Pretender is not faring well in this shutdown.


    The Great Pretender's approval rating started out at 45% before the shutdown. We'll see how far it flushes if this drags on and his chickens come home to roost.
     
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    Sounds like those Presidential polls that had the race close.

    :laugh: He doesn't care. He has nothing to lose. He's not running for re-election.
     
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    Face it, the Republicans are losing and being blamed for the shutdown.

    The bottom line is it is a civil war between Republicans. They need to put the country first and their infighting last.


     
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    Your polls are a week old a couple dollars short.
     
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    But this is the stuff that they do. They are divided and every other week try to present some new face as the poster child for the party. They' re disoriented and frankly a complete bore when it comes to ways to capture the electorates imagination.

    That's why when the Dems were getting ready to elect either the first female or black candidate back in 2008, the GOP came out with a one-armed geriatric old white man who the majority of the party viewed as too liberal.

    The GOP simply doesn't know how to attack the beast because the party is splintered and dysfunctional. Boehner comes across as weak. Always has.

    And this he won't negotiate bit is just stupid. They knew he wasn't gonna negotiate on Obamacare. And the public knows that they knew. So both sides look like petulant kids trying to get their way. Except the President has nothing to lose, while the GOP has to start preparing for midterm elections.

    At this rate, they are not gonna stand a chance come 2016.
     
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    Thank God in Heaven for the few republicans strong enough to stand up to the entire team-zero juggernaut, If only the party leadership was a strong as them. I pray for Ted Cruz, and the rest of them They're job isn't easy to begin with, but when self-professed Christians are so willing to lie about what they are doing, the job seems overwhelming. They need our prayers for strength, and victory.
     
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    Hate to break this to you...



    Americans are blaming Republicans for the partial government shutdown, two new polls find as the budget stand-off veers closer to the deadline for raising the nation's $16.7 trillion debt limit.

    Seven in 10 adults disapprove of the way Republicans are handling themselves in the wrangling over funding the government, according to the ABC News/Washington Post poll released Monday. That's a 7-point jump since last week and includes 59% of Americans who identify themselves as conservatives.

    Far fewer, 51 percent, disapprove of Obama’s approach, essentially unchanged in the past week.

    The challenge for the Republicans in particular is that their disapproval ratings for handling the situation have increased numerically across the partisan board, among Republicans (+7 points), independents (+5) and Democrats (+9) alike.


    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politic...e-ground-vs-obama-in-the-shutdown-blame-game/

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ent-shutdown-blame-republicans-polls/2938787/
     
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    Isn't it funny how widely divergent that polling is? The Huffington Post poll made the effort to offer a choice to blame both. Gallup went even further and asked how much more negatively respondents to the poll felt toward one side or the other. They feel much more negatively toward the Great Pretender, because they had more positive feelings to shed, since most were already (thanks to the spin of the liberal media as it bought into the White House propaganda about the shutdown) feeling negatively toward Republicans. So the two polls represent a real shift in public opinion. The Great Pretender isn't slipping away into the shadows like he has in the past when crises hit.
     
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    You can stop derailing the thread.
     
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    :laugh: He ain't the one who started talking about poll numbers.
     
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    He began the line of thought that led to the quoting of poll numbers, however, when he said:

    The poll numbers show he is incorrect in his opinion.
     
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    More pure foolishness. Any thread derail was led by the need to prove him wrong with numbers while attempting to protect the Republican sacred cow.. All he said is that they were losing the publicity battle.



    But his poll numbers refuted your poll numbers.:laugh: So...
     
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    Zaac has been working to derail threads critical of the pres. Just let him talk it only feeds him.
     
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    Right. Your cohort takes the thread into derail mode and it's my fault. Got it. :laugh:
     
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    Nope. The polls I cited didn't ask simple "yes" or "no" questions that would lead to a desired outcome. They actually sought out an honest-to-God opinion from people.

    Yea, I know, and I shouldn't feed into it. However, I feel kinda like Congress finally feels with the Great Pretender: "I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore."
     
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