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Featured Christ by His Death alone !

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by savedbymercy, Aug 19, 2012.

  1. The Biblicist

    The Biblicist Well-Known Member
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    You are doing what ever cultic teach does. You are doing what the Catholics on this forum do. You cannot answer the objections that expose your false teaching and so you simply ignore the objections and repeat, reassert your anti-christ doctrines
     
  2. savedbymercy

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    By His Stripes Ye are Healed !



    1 Pet 2:24

    24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

    By His Stripes ye are Healed. The Death of Christ here is clearly stated by the inspired writer, the Apostle to be the Sole and Meritorious Cause of Being Healed. That is His Stripes provided the Eternal Benefit of perfectly Healing those whom Christ died for from all sin in God's Sight ! Col 1:22

    In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

    Thats why by His Death alone He hath Perfected forever they who are sanctified Heb 10:14

    14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

    This is by ONE OFFERING, not by the Work of the Spirit, but BY the OFFERING of His Body , when He bare Our sins in His Own Body on the Tree 1 Pet 2:24.

    The Healing is also pointed out by the OT writer who was shown the Covenant benefit of the Death of Christ Ps 103:2-3

    Bless the Lord, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits:

    3 Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases;

    Yes, that is a benefit of the Death of Christ alone, for those He died for, all their sins are forgiven, a clean slate, as though they never sinned.

    Remission of sins is by the Blood of Christ alone before God's Sight !

    Those false teachers who teach that Christ death in and of itself does not Justify one or that its Worthless, they are not of God !
     
  3. Gerhard Ebersoehn

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    sAVED BY THE FINEST SPLIT OF HAIRS ... that is 'savedbymercy'.

    Saved by the absolute all-encompassing all satisfying grace of God's free will ... that is 'the biblicist'.

    In this case I'll opt for the latter.


    But as a rule it seems to me 'savedbymercy' and 'biblicist' take turns to split hair.

    My observation is you two agree mostly, but contest for the sake of contesting.

     
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  4. billwald

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    How is something that the Holy Spirit does different from what Jesus or God does? Isn't this concept Arianism?
     
  5. Gerhard Ebersoehn

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    Ja; that's one over above me, too.
     
  6. savedbymercy

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    Isa 42:6-7 Christ's Covenant Death !

    Isa 42:6-7

    6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;

    7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.


    Christ's Covenental Death, for all the Covenant People, which are all those the Father gave Him Per Jn 17:2

    2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

    And to these it says "and give thee for a covenant of the people,"

    These are also the Children of Promise Rom 9:8, now to them, He delivers them all from the prison of unbelief, for that is the promise here indicated in this scripture, because unbelief is a prison, and all for whom Christ died must be brought out of that Prison.

    Unbelief is a Prison we know from Paul's statement regarding God's Judgment against the Elect for sin, He concluded them all in Unbelief Rom 11:32

    32 For God hath concluded them all in or into unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

    The key here is the meaning of the word concluded ! It is the greek word sygkleiō and means:


    to shut up together, enclose

    a) of a shoal of fishes in a net

    2) to shut up on all sides, shut up completely

    Notice, to shut up on all sides or to enclose !

    It means:

    to shut or hem in; close in on all sides

    Of course the idea conveyed is to confine or to imprison, and so it is , all the elect are by nature imprisoned, confined, enclosed in unbelief.

    God is the primary and first cause of this as stated in Rom 11:32, but God also employs satan as a secondary cause, the god and prince of this world, and so it is written of him 2 Cor 4:3-4a

    3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

    4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,

    All by nature are shut into unbelief by satan and the blindness of the mind he causes by the permission or will of God See Eph 4:18 also !

    However, everyone Christ died for, His Covenental and Redemptive Death, by His Blood, has opened blind eyes and brought out the prisoners from the prison of unbelief !

    The word prison in Isa 42:7 is the hebrew word macger and means:

    a shutting up, locksmith, smith, dungeon, enclosure, builder of bulwarks

    Christ's Redeeming Covenental Death for His People brings all for whom He died out of the prison, the enclosure of unbelief which they are in by nature.

    So if any that Christ died for remain in unbelief, and never come to saving Faith in Christ, that would mean that satan, the god of this world, was victorious over Christ and His Blood, and God's justice being satisfied for that one did not release them from the prison of unbelief ! That means that satan was stronger than Christ; And many right today, who call themselves Gospel Preachers, they would tell us that a great many for whom Christ died, will died or remain in unbelief.

    It should go without saying, that all such preachers and professing christians are liars and are ignorant to the Accomplishments of Christ's Covenental Death !

    Zech 9:11

    As for thee also, by the blood of thy covenant I have sent forth thy prisoners out of the pit wherein is no water.
     
  7. savedbymercy

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    The effects of Christ's Death !



    It is evil indeed for men to deny the meritorious effects of Christ's Death, even though all those effects may take time to the actual fulfillment to each beneficiary ! Christ is the foundational and meritorious cause of all subsequent spiritual blessing we receive. The fact of the matter, when God gave us[His Elect] His Son in Death, that was the earnest given, whether that be the Suretyship of Christ that was setup for us before the foundation of the world, when it was then determined not to impute sin unto the persons of the Elect, but that it would be imputed, laid to the charge of Christ, or if it means the actual Death of Christ in the time state, He been given or promised had infinite value and merit, and that in and of itself had equal estimation in God's reckoning, as though all had been fulfilled actually for each member of the elect, for having Christ even in Covenant engagement on our behalf, is equal to having all that is due to flow unto us in due season ! Rom 8:32

    32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

    Now this word delivered means more than just Christ's death, but the word also means:

    to give into the hands (of another)

    to deliver verbally

    to commit, to commend

    In other words, the Christ was delivered up for us the Elect even in His being committed to die from the engagements promises of the Everlasting Covenant to begin with !

    Consequently even ones New Birth in time by the Spirit is the continual effect of Christ's meritorious Death at the Cross, for all whom He died centuries ago, and also of His Suretyship and commitment to die before the world began, and for this it is said that He was given as a Covenant for the people Isa 42:6

    6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles; See Rom 8:32 !

    Thats is, His being delivered up for us all the elect, is the same as He being given for a Covenant of the people !

    There is not a time in the life of a True believer, when Christ had not been given as a Covenant to them, to include their days of unbelief !

    Even while dead in sin, Christ as being given as A Covenant for them, preserved them in their unregenerate days unto they are called by the Gospel through the Spirit Jude 1:1

    1 Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called:
     
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