Christian children in Public Schools

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  1. Baptist Mom

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    I personally do not believe that a Christian should ever be sent to a public school what do you all think????

    There is so much ungodly thinking and teaching going on that a child must need to be retrained when they come home. You would need to take real strong stands on subjects like divorce, homosexuality and evolution. The public school makes these things sound accepted.

    Personally, I homeschool my children and I am glad that the Lord has allowed me to do so and I have no problem with most Christian schools. The Bible does say that we as parents are responsible for the training of our children it is not the schools or the churches job.

    I would like to hear your thoughts on public schools, christian schools and homeschooling.

    Cyndi :eek:
     
  2. Lorelei

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Baptist Mom:
    I personally do not believe that a Christian should ever be sent to a public school what do you all think????<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I think that decision should be based upon each individual family. I don't think that there is anything wrong with anyone going to public school.

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    There is so much ungodly thinking and teaching going on that a child must need to be retrained when they come home. You would need to take real strong stands on subjects like divorce, homosexuality and evolution. The public school makes these things sound accepted.
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    That is true in some cases, you also have to look at where you are living at the time. I live in a fairly small town in the middle of the "Bible Belt". Many of the teachers in the public school system attend my church and there are many that attend other churches. There are things that my children come in contact that with that go against what we believe, but that has not stopped them from believing it. It is my responsibility to train my child, but I do this with the assistance of the public schools.

    My 14 year old son has not been adversly affected by the public school system as of yet. As a matter of fact, he takes his Bible with him every day. He has had discussions with classmates that are of other faiths and other denominations. He has purchased Bibles for some of these children and has asked my advice on scriptures to share with some of them. His class had a costume party this year, and my son dresssed up as one of the witnesses from the book of Revelations. He was astounded that no one knew who he was even AFTER he told them! But I wonder who would have told them if my son had not been there?

    My pastor mentioned just this thing on Sunday morning. His daughter is getting ready to go off to college and he would love to put a wall of protection around her, but he can not. What he can do and what we are told to do is to make sure our children our equipped and ready to face evil. To put on the whole armor of God. God didn't say we were never to face evil, but rather he gave us the tools to overcome it.

    Like I said, it is a personal choice for each family. I think there are benefits to both sides and that your decision should be what is best for you and your family.

    ~Lorelei

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  3. tachbuloth

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    Well thought Lorelei.

    I am glad to hear that your church has those involved in the public schools that are also involved in the church.

    The question that I have for this topic is why isn't the school boards controlled by the church?

    If you vote, why don't you choose someone who you trust?

    Folks the public educational system is not government controlled. Very little money comes from the federal level and nearly all of that is available to ANYONE public, private and home school. It is the local districts that control the schools. Your neighbors choose what will be taught.

    So get involved! It isn't easy, it isn't nice, and it isn't familiar ground. But if your going to demand the public schools change, then I recommend the change start at your doorstep.
     
  4. BHarris

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    Tach!

    We agree!
     
  5. Baptist Mom

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    As you see I never said YOU should not put your child in public school and I agree with your post Lorelei and maybe if I lived in the Bible belt I might consider sending my children without academic difficulities there. But I am just saying that in places that the public schools are really bad like here on the east coast it is not an option.
    It is a personal decision where you send your children but the saftey issue and constantly being told that divorce and homosexuality and evolution are right and encouraged that can be dangerous.


    What I said is that it was MY personal conviction. The subject was not whether we should or should not put our children in public schools the subject was do you have to retrain them when they get home.

    I went to public school and I was terrible traumatized by it. We have about three families in our church that send their children to the public school system and all of the children who have gone their now want nothing to do with church or are in the world.

    The parents in our church (including the pastor) several years ago tried to make the public school a better place to send our children but it continually got worse and worse and many of the children were tormented by the other kids and picked on by the teachers for trying to make changes.

    That is when we started our own Christian school. I just wanted to know how you train your children after they have been under the ungodly training of a public school for seven hours and do it successfully. The training is not up to the schools or the churches it is up to us as the parents.

    I homeschool my children and it is not because I am trying to shelter them from the world. In fact, there are so many things that you do to bring knowledge and understanding to your children so they know what the world is like. Then teach them right from wrong.

    I teach my children from the minute they get up until the minute they go to bed and I do not only teach them from the Bible I teach them what the world believes on certain things and I allow them to have friends that do not go to church and I allow them to be involved in activities that are not surrounded by the Bible.

    I homeschool because I have a child with learning difficulties and the public school chose to want to push this child through the system without doing anything about it. Also, curriculum the public school uses is about two years behind the private school. I brought my child to the public school for a short period time for some therapy (which did no good because they only care about numbers not children) and the four year olds in our Christian school were better behaved and followed directions better than the fourth graders in the public school.

    I don't look down at those who send their children to public school but when tachbuloth responded on another post he did it harshly and out of the flesh and after that kind of response who would ever want to send their children to the public school.

    When the Christians who advocate it themselves are acting like the world.

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  6. Bob Landis

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    Public schools don't make thing like homosexuality, fornication, divorce, humanism, and a long long list of other filth just sound acceptable, they actually MAKE it acceptable.

    The public school was at one time a place of higher education. Now it is a place of humanist indoctrination. Your Christian child has no business learning the religion of the heathen. If anyones child is in public school, take them out and save their souls! :mad:

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  7. Lorelei

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Baptist Mom:
    I personally do not believe that a Christian should ever be sent to a public school what do you all think????
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    I am sorry if you felt that I put words in your mouth. I am referring to your personal belief that no Christian should ever be sent to a public school.

    I honor and respect your decision to home school your children. However, as much as I respect your decision to homeschool your child, I have a problem with your belief thatNO Christian should ever be sent to a public school. Yes, that means ME and MY children. That is what I was responding to.

    As for the school boards, yes the Superintendant of our school board is also a church member and many of the members are active Christians. I am blessed that my community is this active. If I lived elsewhere maybe I would have decided otherwise. As I stated before the choice should reflect what is best for your self and your family. I do admire those who do homeschool thier children, I have family members that do that. It is not an easy job to do!

    ~Lorelei
     
  8. MagicDar

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    This is up to each individual set of parents on where God leads them to send thier children. No matter where you live it is possible for your child to hold bible study meetings at their school and many christian kids do just that. What is the difference if a christian kid goes to public school under wordly influences or a missionary family has kids under evil influences with natives? Fact is, I think public school is a great starter for kids to be missionaries, yes they must be bold and strong and well educated in the christian life but so do missionary kids. I personally plan to send my son to public school. [​IMG] -dar
     
  9. tachbuloth

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    What is wrong with Christian and home schools?

    Nothing, unless you want them to allow your children to learn how to put on a show of Godliness and deny any power thereof.

    Nothing, unless you want them to learn how to only fellowship with other believers and never develop any backbone by being persecuted for their faith.

    Nothing, if you think that homosexuals and other perverts are only at the public schools but not the libraries, malls, restaurants, or your neighbors.

    Nothing, unless you are letting the church do all your thinking for you, and you never question the motivation of the pastor.

    Nothing, unless you don’t have a public school staff member on your board of deacons.

    Nothing, unless you aren’t qualified.

    Nothing, unless you are not involved politically to change what you have the authority to change by gathering support for your view and voting.

    Nothing, unless you think that “train up a child” means you are obliged to home or Christian school.

    Nothing, unless…
     
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    What is wrong with public schools?

    Nothing, unless you only talk to Christ occasionally.

    Nothing, unless peers are more important than Christ.

    Nothing, unless worldly philosophy entangles you because you don’t know the scriptures.

    Nothing, unless your hope in Christ is not superior of you fear of death.

    Nothing, unless you are susceptible to the fiery darts of the wicked.

    Nothing, unless you refuse to acknowledge Christ’s total claim to your life and living.

    Nothing, unless you don’t have the strength to seek out for yourself the mystery of Godliness in a wicked world.

    Nothing, unless you are like Mark on the first journey and want to go home.

    Nothing, unless you and your parents are not involved in the political system that "calles the shots."

    Nothing, unless...
     
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    Spectator sports draw big crowds.

    Baptist Mom said, "I don't look down at those who send their children to public school but when tachbuloth responded on another post he did it harshly and out of the flesh and after that kind of response who would ever want to send their children to the public school."

    "Harshly and out of the flesh" caught my eye.

    Yet, Christians who consider the Public Schools “ungodly” have posted the greatest venom that I have ever heard. I doubt that there are very few members of this forum that haven’t personally heard some preacher attack the Public schools.

    All I have stated is that those who attack need to get busy and fight! Quit demonstrating you have a mouth and use your rights to make change.

    Instead, tachbuloth gets told he is harsh and in the flesh. Oops, that was “out of the flesh” which I suppose means some type of out of body experience .

    Seriously, if any good is to come from this discussion it must be that individuals work together to become politically active. It is not easy. It is not a fair game. It is not even bloodless. But it is worth the struggle.

    Didn’t I hear someone say, “put up or…”

    The next time someone is critical of the public school system, ask them who is on the board? If they can tell you, perhaps then they have the right to be critical. At least then they know who is representing them and can hold the right people accountable. If they cannot, they really don’t have any right to be critical because they do not really know what is going on. They are a mere spectator.
     
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    As I have three children (and a mortgage-size monthly payment) going to a Christian school, let me express my feelings.

    Christian schools:
    <UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI>I don't think Christian schools are the end-all solution for Christian parents, and should not be substituted for in-home teaching and leading by example, the Christian walk!<LI>Christian schools vary greatly in their qualifications for admission: most have about 50% Christian children in Christian homes. Others send their children there to have morality (not righteouness) instilled in them and for safety concerns. So there are plenty of opportunities for witnessing and interaction with "the world" in Christian schools.[/list]

    Public schools:
    <UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI>It's nice to live where the majority of your children's teachers are Christian, but even they are held strictly accountable to follow state and federal mandated guidelines to teach a predominantly liberal humanist agenda that instills that method of making choices in life!<LI>Can you find peace in your day while your children are in a public school today? Shootings have occured in rural Bible belt schools as well as big city suburban schools. Not when, but where will the next one be?[/list]

    Home schooling:
    <UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI>We did this for half a year with one of our children. Biggest complaint from him was limited social life and interaction with other kids.<LI>Not all parents are equiped for this. Unless the stay-at-home parent is disciplined and gifted at teaching, you could be doing your child(ren) a great disservice by going this route.[/list]

    That's my 2-points apiece take on the pros and cons. It comes down to personal choice, abilities ($$, time, skills), and prayerful consideration.

    Your brother in Christ
     
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    Hi Baptist Mom. We also homeschool ( my wife is the workhorse ) I am convinced that it is the #1 way to educate your children. It is the only way remotly described in the bible. The bible also says that the Father is to have a major role in the spirtual upbringing of the kids. Public or Christian schools are not mentioned...and it isnt as if God forgot about mentioning those two education methods. As far as Christian and Public schools go, I would prefer to send them to Public school. ...Why ? Because there is really little difference between Christian and Public school in the mechanics of their operation. Classes are structured the same, they have hallways with lockers. They have multi sports to compete in. They have year books, proms, homecomings, lunch rooms, hall passes, principal offices, PTA type of meetings, field trips...ect. So why pay extra to send your kid to a place that has the same things as a public school, but with less qualified teachers and far less equipment and resources ? Most of the kids in the Christian school are just kids...lost, and with all the problems and difficulties as those in the public school have. As you have mentioned...it is MY RESPONSIBILITY for the spirtual well being of my kids...not the schools, and not the Churches. So, I home school my kids. If I send them, I want the best for them, and I do not believe that most Christiam schools are equiped enough to compete with public, or even Catholic schools. BTW...how many great men of God, dedicated church workers, and people completely " sold out " to God, do you know that went to public school vs Christian school ? Take a private survey, and you may be suprised. [​IMG]
     
  14. Baptist Mom

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    Amen Bob!!!!

    Thank you for your post.
    I really appreciated it.

    To Mad dog,
    We had those things at our Christian school that you mentioned the public school had. Hallways and structured classes, PTA meetings, sports and choir and plays etc.
    So I guess if I had to choose I would send them to a Christian school but it would have to be a good one.

    Cyndi [​IMG]

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    I believe each kid is different in being able to handle whatever enviroment they are in. Some could handle public while others would be better off in either christian or home. I believe there are advantages as well as disadvantages to all three systems. -dar
     
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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tachbuloth:
    Instead, tachbuloth gets told he is harsh and in the flesh. Oops, that was “out of the flesh” which I suppose means some type of out of body experience .<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


    :rolleyes:
     
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    My son goes to public school, and will more than likely stay there for the immeadiate future. Why you ask, well Ill tell you.

    1. I don't feel that either my wife or I have the time, temperment or enough intellegence to teach him everything he needs to know. What we can teach him, with the help of the church, is how to become a good Christian.

    2. At this point in my life I can not afford to send him to a private Christian school.

    3. Both myself and my wife are the products of the public school system. We survived it and are doing our best to live as Christ wants us to live. So there is no reason my children can't do the same.

    Is homeschooling right for some families? Of Course it is. In my opinion if the parent doing the teaching has the time temperment and intellegence then it is a great option. The child also has to have the right personality to thrive in that setting.

    Is a Christian school a good choice? Of course it is. If you find a good school that will provide academics, christian values, and bible study. Its a great choice if you can afford it.

    Is public school a good choice. Of course it is. As with eveything in life you must be involved with your children and stear them to to course you want them to follow.
     
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    Good post New Believer....public school may be a good choice for some.

    It is not an option for my daughter because she has some learning needs.

    But it depends on the public school.

    Thanks for your post.
    Cyndi
     
  20. MagicDar

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    I will most likely be sending my son to public school in the future, but I can assure you of one thing.....this will be one involved mamma. I will take an active part in what happens and will do whatever I can to be in the center of what is happening in my son's life.-dar
     

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