CHRISTIAN COLLEGE HOSTS PRO-ABORTION MUSICIAN

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    WASHINGTON, November 19, 2002 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Messiah College, in Harrisburg, PA, will be hosting a concert by pro-abortion musician Aimee Mann. Rock for Life (a division of American Life League) has asked why the Christian college would host a musician who "supports the killing of pre-born babies." Mann donated one of her songs to a CD benefiting an access to abortion project. Her song is featured in Safe and Sound, a compilation CD benefiting the Feminist Majority Foundation's National Clinic Access Project.
    Sara McKalips, assistant director of Rock For Life and a recent graduate of Messiah is, along with other students at the school, upset that a Christian college would use student money to bring in an entertainer who has actively supported abortion and is asking the school's administration to stop the concert.

    "I'm outraged that my school is bringing in a musician who supports abortion," said Michael Smith, director of the Harrisburg Rock For Life chapter and a student at Messiah College. "Messiah's motto is 'Christ Preeminent'. If Christ is truly preeminent on campus, they will cancel the Aimee Mann concert."

    To express your concerns to Messiah:
    Administrative Assistant to the President's Office
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    There are different views among Christians about many social and political issues - including abortion. (See for instance The Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice ) It gets a little tiresome when people constantly try to equate being Christian with being politically conservative.

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    It also gets very tiresome when Liberals try to say that it is ok for Christians to wink at sin and support murdering unborn babies.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    Amen Joseph that was a great post.

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    Ouch. :eek:

    No wonder their site is ranked 1,567,262 by Alexa.
     
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    Abortion = Murder.

    This has nothing to do with one's political affiliation.

    "These six things the LORD hates, yes, seven are an abomination to Him: A proud look, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that are swift in running to evil, a false witness who speaks lies, and one who sows discord among brethren."
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    On the website for the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice it declares, "We are pro-choice because of our faith."

    How sad. How sickening.

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    Rev. G.

    Did you bother to look at the Statements by Religious Bodies regarding why they hold to that view? Some of them are quite profound.

    The long and the short of it is that you can be a Christian college and have pro-choice speakers/faculty/students just like you can be a Christian and be pro-choice.

    Joshua
     
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    Joshua,

    as Baptists, they certainly have the freedom and right to hold the wrong view. However, I would assert that it is more garbage than it is profound.

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    One man's garbage is another man's...
     
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    Just because we are anti-abortion does not mean we are "right-wing conservatives". I'm not, but I am against abortion, euthanasia & suicide.

    I find it ironic that it is a woman's right to kill her fetus, but she will be fined heavily if she is caught driving away from the clinic with her seatbealt unbuckled! Where is her right to choose there?

    Please don't take any of this wrongly, but why doesn't law allow a woman to choose to use heroin, go naked in public, drive without her safety belt, etc? It's hypocrisy like this that reveals "a woman's right to choose" is really a pile of boloney.
     
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    Hypocrisy? The height of hypocrisy is a government that says it's okay to kill your unborn child, but if someone "kills" the fetus (I hate that word, so darn impersonal), they will do time. Where is the logic in that?

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    It almost 5:00 AM (EST) November 21, 2002. How many babies have been murdered this morning? I sure would not want to be one of those "pro-choice Christians" on Judgmant Day. I can just imagine the scene.

    Jesus: "Why did you not defend the lives of all these innocent babies?"

    "Pro-choice Christian": "Well, there is freedom in Christ."

    Jesus: "It would have been better for you to have tied a loadstone around your neck and been cast into the sea than to harm one of these innocents."

    "Pro-choice Christian": But, Lord Lord we did all kinds of good deeds in your name. We worked hard for social justice, we helped people learn to read, we assisted with heating oil costs for the poor in winter, and we even fed the homeless all in your name."

    Jesus: "Away from me I never knew you."

    It is truely sad that there are those who claim to wear the name of Christ and yet see no problem with abortion. I plead with you all to reconsider your stance. Dig into the Scripture and see if your beliefs line up with the Word of God. Remember, a heretic is a Christian who teaches false doctrine and a lost sinner is simply a lost sinner.

    [ November 22, 2002, 05:45 AM: Message edited by: BibleboyII ]
     
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    IITim., I belive you missunderstood my point. Most likely that was my fault, by the way.
    What I was trying to convey was the sense that Pro-choice is a hypocritical stance.
    I went to the link provided by Rev. Joshua, and read the stances of the organizations on the page. What I found was that pro-choice (if not pro-abortion) is embedded in the ethical system of many of these groups. The reasoning behind their decisions sparked my comments as to why these groups say they agree with a woman's right to choose what is best for herself, but then would disagree with this right to choose in regards to issues besides abortion, such as suicide, etc.
    I hope that helps.
    My stance is: Baby-murder may be lawful, but it is still an abomination.
    JH
     
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    As a Forgiven & Set Free Post-abortive Mother, I find it absolutely heart-wrenching that anyone who truly believes in Christ Jesus would in any way compromise with/encourage/support so called "Pro-Choice" philosophies/organizations/supporters.

    Because I have been forgiven and healed by our Lord Jesus, I now have the courage to speak out about this issue. I was utterly destroyed by my abortion, as are millions of other mommies, daddies, grandparents, aunts, uncles, sisters, brothers, and the list goes on and on. And, how we are impoverished by the loss of all of those millions of precious little babies taken by abortion.

    Please, those of you who truly follow Christ, but are afraid to take a stand because you don't want to appear intorlerant/judgemental/extreme --take a stand against abortion. Please don't try to defend it, especially in the Christian arena. There is no defense for it ... in reality there is only sorrow, rage, and a long hard road back for those who have been devastated by it.

    My heart goes out to any post-abortive parents who are reading this post. If you haven't sought Biblical healing through a Bible study created especially for the post-abortive, you can may find a group through your local Crisis Pregnancy or Pregnancy Resource Centers.
    I would encourage you to seek healing and help.
    It's out there and there are people who, with tender hearts, will gently and lovingly help you through it.
     
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    Is the school itself sponsering the show or is it a group within the school or is it an outside production company who is just renting the facilities for the show?

    I remember going to several shows at Eastern College, just outside Philly where the shows were produced by outside groups.
     
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    As to Messiah College, I'm not surprised. It's consistent with their worldview.

    Christians need to learn to recognize who's who.
     
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    "Profound" is not the measure of right and wrong.

    "Mein Kempf" was "profound".

    [ November 26, 2002, 11:52 PM: Message edited by: Pennsylvania Jim ]
     

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