Christian Missionary Alliance

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  1. superdave

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    Was wondering if any of y'all had any detailed information on the CMA, and specifics on the denomination, doctrine, etc. I have had several friends who were from CMA churches, and was asked about the differences between the CMA and Baptist churches in general. I already know some of them, the most striking being the lack of true church autonomy.
     
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    CMA is Wesleyan/Arminian in it's views. A rather good denomination, IMHO. If I'm not mistaken, A.W. Tozer was a CMA pastor.
     
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    The CMA is a great mixture of theology. The group does have a doctrinal statement, but pastors differ widely in their theology.

    My best friend is a C&MA pastor. He and his wife graduated from the same Bible College and they are both mild Calvinists.

    Indeed, Tozer was a C&MA pastor, and the very best. We all went to hear Tozer when he was in Toronto as pastor of the Avenue Road Church.

    The C&MA is the heart of the Keswick Movement in Canada, a holiness movement. They prolly place more importance on personal experience in spiritual matters, than on solid doctrines; subjectivism rather than the objective scriptures.

    They believe in the various pentecostal gifts, but do not practice them as a group; speaking in tongues, as one example.

    If you attended a regular service, you prolly wouldn't find much difference from most baptist churches.

    In fact, I have heard more "shouting" in baptist churches than I ever heard from Tozer. He was a quiet man and not a forceful preacher. One concentrated more on what he was saying, than how he said it, from the pulpit.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  4. SpiritualMadMan

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    A.W. Tozer also wrote many excellent books, and was Publisher or chief editor of the Alliance Witness, the denom's magazine.

    When Saigon fell the CMA was the *only* Missionary organization to stay on Guam and minister to the 100K or so Vietnamese Refugess...

    (That I know of. [​IMG] ) I got underfoot with Tom Stebbins Jr. doing work during that difficult period.

    Most of the work was based out of the Baptist church which provided quarters.

    To be fair though... A lot of refugees went straight to the West Coast and many missionaries followed there as well.

    Some missionaries had to be furloughed because they had taken such an emotional hit when Saigon fell...

    Especially when a lot of Christians chose to stay behind as part of the underground church. Knowing most would not survive the decade.

    Most did not. The communists were quite thorough about rooting out Christians.

    I agree with the statement a pretty good, stable, non-Charismatic Denom...

    They have a church in Minnisota that breaks all the molds, though, "The Church of the Open Door". www.thedoor.org

    Especially in their worship music: These cuts are from "Songs from the Open Door - Volume Three":

    These are 1MB 1 minute Clips

    www.houseofmyrrh.org\_Holy-Clip.mp3
    This one starts like a Gregorian Chant and then shifts to something like "Yes".


    www.houseofmyrrh.org\_You%20Are%20Holy-clip.mp3
    This one is much slower throughout. But, has some *really* sweet Guitar work.
     
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    Another person that was in the Christian Missionary Alliance was the late Dr. Leonard Ravenhill. He was a personal friend to A.W. Tozer and is best known for his book "Why Revival Tarries." This book should be required for all Christians.
    As to the Pentecostal side of The CMA their stand is " don't seek don't quench."
    Kinda like Don't ask don't tell attitude.
     
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    Now, that's something I didn't know... Interesting, very interesting.

    Leonard Ravenhill is not for the faint of heart. [​IMG]

    If you want flat toes, and a pierced broken heart, then read...
     
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    I really enjoy A.W. Tozer's books I got them off E-Sword very good books. The CMA sounds like a fairly sound church.
     
  8. Ben W

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    We have the CMA here in Australia, they are a great denomination to be associated with. Jeff Vanvonderans church, the guy who wrote the Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse is one of those.
     
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    Another 'tid-bit' I wasn't aware of...

    Will have to check out the book...
     
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    Many of the CMA pastors go to Baptist seminaries. They have the highest ratio of missionaries to lay people of any denomination. There are more overseas then in the US.
     

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