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Christian School Attacked Over Quran Desecrations

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by shodan, Sep 14, 2010.

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  1. Don

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    Take the story from Acts, where they were told not to preach; the decision becomes, do I preach, and endanger myself and other Christians? Or do I keep everyone safe, and refrain from spreading the Gospel?

    If I burn a koran, is this something that scripture dictates, or even suggests, I should be doing? By burning a koran, do I show the glory of God? If so, then by all means, I should burn it, and shout hallelujah, and preach the Word while doing it.
     
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    Do you really believe that burning the Koran is more important that the life or lives of your bothers and sisters in Christ in Islamic countries?
     
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    I didn't see him saying that. I saw him saying " By burning a koran, do I show the glory of God? If so, then by all means..." Personally, I do not see burning the Koran as bringing glory to God.

    However, what if we were told to not spread the Gospel and by doing so, we will endanger the lives of believers in Islamic countries? Would you stop preaching?
     
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  5. shodan

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    "So ANYTHING WE DO will incite a riot by the idiots!"
    What a gross exaggeration.

    Do you have problems [like the rest of us] living the Christian life and obeying the clear instructions of Christ our Lord? Look UP and listen.

    "But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. ...If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even 'sinners' love those who love them..."--Jesus
     
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    Did I say I didn't love them?

    But anyone who would strap a bomb to themselves and blow themselves up in a suicide bombing, just because another idiot wants to burn a koran.. well they are idiots!...

    Look at what is happening today (9-15-10) the Muslims in Afghanistan are still rioting although the Koran was NEVER burned by Jones...

    Yes they need the Gospel.. but according to some libs we shouldn't share the gospel with them because it might offend other muslims that might riot...

    Well, the one's rioting are the ones to be blamed.

    All an American has to do is hold a match to a Koran, and Muslim nations around the world start attacking each other... and killing each other... Geesh.. what a peaceful religion Islam is!
     
  7. FR7 Baptist

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    Imagine if the bomb had gone off- the underwear bomber would have had 72 very disappointed virgins waiting for him in heaven. :tongue3:
     
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    And a lot less funny - there would have been a large number of innocent lives taken.

    It was just dumb luck that this particular terrorist failed his attack on the infidels.
     
  9. FR7 Baptist

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    It's only funny because the bomb didn't work. And actually, the bomb wasn't powerful enough to blow up the plane anyway. It would likely only have killed the bomber and the person next to him.

    I'm going to make a prediction- the bomber will get life in prison. This dude fired his team of high-powered court-apointed attorneys. That's a disastrous move from a defense perspective. It's probably a good thing in the end, although I doubt the attorneys could get him a sentence below the 40-50 year range.
     
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    What's amazing to me is that Crabby is teaching this hippy theology to impressionable seminary students in a so called Baptist seminary. He seems to be espousing a version of liberation theology where there is a victim and an oppressor. In this case Christians, who are the oppressors, need to stop offending the poor victims (Muslims). The oppressors are only reaping what they have sown by their oppressive aggression towards Muslims in recent history.
     
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    I find it a bit odd that you have more of an interest in how this guy can spend the least amount of time in prison than how fortunate we are that he failed.

    In my opinion attempted murder or attempted terrorism should be a capital offense with the possibilty of the death penalty depending upon the circumstances.
     
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    What are you talking about shodan? Look no one is saying to hate them or curse them. What greater act and/or blessing can we give them but participate in the call of the God and give them the Gospel.

    I have and had my life threatened, that doesn't surprise me because I've been threatened by enraged non-muslims as well, but I'm still going to witness as the Lord gives me opportunity (and courage).

    For the radical islamists we are worthy of death just because our heart is beating. You can't tell who is radicalized, they are taught to control their wrath.

    If you haven't already, go to a muslim community and knock on doors with the Gospel message of the love of God.

    You will learn something.

    HankD
     
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    That's not true. Crabby is at the seminary because he loves Jesus and he wants to help train pastors to spread the Gospel to all people, including Muslims.
     
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    In my opinion first-degree murder is the only crime that should carry the possibility of the death penalty.
     
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    Paul, why do you want to defend the indefensible. A seminary needs to teach the Word and not some 60's radicalized perversion of it. If I'm not mistaken, the IMB pulled funding from this seminary because of its questionable theology.
     
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    Do you think all the people at the seminary are going to hell?
     
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    Did I say they are going to hell? I'm sure in real life that Crabby is a nice guy. We could probably enjoy a cup of coffee together so long as politics are not a part of the conversation and he doesn't wear his "Would Jesus Drop A Bomb?" T-shirt.
     
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    SAG, I'm too old to be a hippy. I am curious, what is hippy theology? Most of the hippies I knew had no theology. They had more of a philosophy of life, but not a theology. Also, the 60's theology was healthier in that the SBC and others had not compromised their theology by selling out to a political party.

    You are right, if we met we could happily have a cup of coffee and a danish together. In 'real life' I can get along with almost anyone. The cool print on the computer screen does not carry inflection, facial expressions, etc. well and misunderstanding is very easy on a BB.

    Don't believe I've ever talked about Liberation Theology. Not a subject I know much about. What little I know of LT in the Central American contest I do not agree with. SAG, what is liberation theology to you?

    You are right, we in the West are reaping what we have sown. For centuries Christians and those of Islamic faith lived side-by-side in peace. That began to change after WW I and increased rapidly after WW II.

    Oh, and by the way, I am not a professor. I am a librarian, working in the library ... primarily cleaning up the online database. IBTS has the largest English language collection of theological books in Europe.

    On funding, the SBC withdrew funding primarily because IBTS and the European Baptist Federation would not agree to having one representative from the SBC approve or disapprove all, and I mean all, expenditures by the seminary. Not all funding came from the SBC. I was not here when the defunding happened, but have talked with former students who were and also read on the topic in several books. It all boiled down to economic control and had little to do with theology.



    Paul, yes, I am here for the students. They are wonderful. I'd like to tell some of their stories, but this is not the thread and I could not tell some names or countries they are from as it could put them in danger when they return home. They know what real persecution is all about, having seen it and experienced it themselves. I am glad they do not read this board and see the callous attitude exhibited by some on their brothers and sisters in other countries.
     
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    Just a bit off thread - but hippies - wasn't Calvary Chapel started for the hippie movement?

    (maybe someone could start another thread on this)
     
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