Christians first bury their Passover, then eat Him

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  1. Gerhard Ebersoehn

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    OBJECTION:

    even tho you may be talking symbolically, I still don't 'bury' anything cuz tho I'm thinking of how He suffered and died for me and was resurrected, I don't think about that morbid part of Him being buried as you for some reason do, why should I? Hence the deserved brown roasted salted Georgia legumes for your nonsense
    besides, it's not clear exactly what day He was crucified, or placed in the tomb, or exactly when He resurrected, or if it was truly a 3 day and 3 night process and what supposedly constituted a complete 'day' to the Hebrews then in the first place whereby the literal 3 days And nights could be considered (by some) to be that even tho it wouldn't be literal 3+3 if He was crucified on a Friday unless He resurrected Monday morning!
    You could have brought this up on the crucifixion day Wednesday Thursday or whatever argument thread rather than starting a new distracting one as this


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    That thread almost entirely revolves around the matter I with this thread --- for the first time in Christian thinking --- am trying to bring out into the open and get true perspective on. Its theme deserves focussed attention; it is not <<distracting>> but pertinently relevant to a real aspect of the Lord’s Supper which has not been noticed before, what researched.

    Christians 100% believe Jesus was buried the same day that He died on, in fulfilment of the prophecy of the passover in the Old Testament.

    True or not true?

    Then Christians 100% believe the disciples ate the Lord’s Supper “IN REMEMBRANCE” of the Lord Jesus’ Sacrifice in fulfilment of the prophecy of the passover in the Old Testament, and held its celebration up until today in both and or either the Eucharist and Holy Communion.

    True or not true?

    Truth is, that is the status quo!

    Now discovery is to see what everybody all the time sees; then to THINK what nobody has thought.

    So is it in this matter.

    The OT passover after the exodus, was KILLED on the fourteenth day of the First Month and EATEN the day after, the fifteenth day of the First Month IN ITS NIGHT before “midnight”.“That which REMAINED” of the passover sacrifice,“the following day(light)”, was “carried forth OUT and … BURNED with fire”, in the desert wilderness ….

    True or not true?

    The REMAINS of the passover MEAL of sacrifice and unleavened bread was the following morning carried out.
    Israel for the first time on their journey,“encamped” at Succot—that afternoon the same day still.

    Israel for the first time had eaten “unleavened bread WITH THE FLESH” of the sacrifice “ON THIS SELFSAME DAY”—which had begun SUNSET about 21 hours before.

    Now where they for the first time encamped at Succot, Israel must have used the opportunity to BURN the remains of the passover lamb which they had brought forth with them, and to strew its ashes out onto the earth….
    …. and also to bake the next day’s unleavened bread.

    True; or not true?!

    The point, made, is, that the passover meal—“flesh with unleavened bread”—
    was sacrificed;
    then, FIRST was eaten;
    and then AFTER,“the next day”,“on the Selfsame-Day” of the fifteenth of the First Month, was BURIED.

    It was BURIED,
    first, through having been EATEN and assimilated with the corruptibility of the eater;
    It was BURIED,
    next, through having been “carried forth, out, the NEXT day”;
    It was BURIED,
    last, through having been BURNED and its ashes returned to the earth.

    CONCLUSION:
    passover sequence:
    Killed; EATEN; buried.
    Not: killed, BURIED, eaten!

    But what does the church do?

    They have Jesus Our Passover and Passover Lamb of the Passover of Yahweh,
    Killed AND buried,
    Then resurrected and eaten alive.

    The Protestants can make as much noise as they can in protest, but as long as they hold to the Catholics’ passover-sequence, they hold to the Catholics’ Eucharist and idolatry.
     
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    I find your theology very weird bro, but I guess 2000 years of humankind thinking, debating etc makes very little impact on your version.
     
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    I have no idea what you are talking about. Can you provide a link (preferably by an author other than yourself) to describe this killed, buried and eaten process? (I can find no Passover sequence as you describe in Baptist theology...but I may just be misunderstanding you).
     
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    The point, made, is, that the passover meal—“flesh with unleavened bread”—
    was sacrificed;
    then, FIRST was eaten;
    and then AFTER,“the next day”,“on the Selfsame-Day” of the fifteenth of the First Month, was BURIED.

    It was BURIED,
    first, through having been EATEN and assimilated with the corruptibility of the eater;
    It was BURIED,
    next, through having been “carried forth, out, the NEXT day”;
    It was BURIED,
    last, through having been BURNED and its ashes returned to the earth.

    CONCLUSION:
    passover sequence:
    Killed; EATEN; buried.
    Not: killed, BURIED, eaten!

    But what does the church do?

    They have Jesus Our Passover and Passover Lamb of the Passover of Yahweh,
    Killed AND buried,
    Then resurrected and eaten alive.

    The Protestants can make as much noise as they can in protest, but as long as they hold to the Catholics’ passover-sequence, they hold to the Catholics’ Eucharist and idolatry.
     
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    The point, made, is, that the passover meal—“flesh with unleavened bread”—
    was sacrificed;
    then, FIRST was eaten;
    and then AFTER,“the next day”,“on the Selfsame-Day” of the fifteenth of the First Month, was BURIED.

    It was BURIED,
    first, through having been EATEN and assimilated with the corruptibility of the eater;
    It was BURIED,
    next, through having been “carried forth, out, the NEXT day”;
    It was BURIED,
    last, through having been BURNED and its ashes returned to the earth.

    CONCLUSION:
    passover sequence:
    Killed; EATEN; buried.
    Not: killed, BURIED, eaten!

    But what does the church do?

    They have Jesus Our Passover and Passover Lamb of the Passover of Yahweh,
    Killed AND buried,
    Then resurrected and eaten alive.

    The Protestants can make as much noise as they can in protest, but as long as they hold to the Catholics’ passover-sequence, they hold to the Catholics’ Eucharist and idolatry.
     
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    The point, made, is, that the passover meal—“flesh with unleavened bread”—
    was sacrificed;
    then, FIRST was eaten;
    and then AFTER,“the next day”,“on the Selfsame-Day” of the fifteenth of the First Month, was BURIED.

    It was BURIED,
    first, through having been EATEN and assimilated with the corruptibility of the eater;
    It was BURIED,
    next, through having been “carried forth, out, the NEXT day”;
    It was BURIED,
    last, through having been BURNED and its ashes returned to the earth.

    CONCLUSION:
    passover sequence:
    Killed; EATEN; buried.
    Not: killed, BURIED, eaten!

    But what does the church do?

    They have Jesus Our Passover and Passover Lamb of the Passover of Yahweh,
    Killed AND buried,
    Then resurrected and eaten alive.

    The Protestants can make as much noise as they can in protest, but as long as they hold to the Catholics’ passover-sequence, they hold to the Catholics’ Eucharist and idolatry.
     
  8. Gerhard Ebersoehn

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    I made a mistake with the 'bone-day' Scripture in Leviticus 23:21.

    I 'paired' verse 21 with verse 20 instead of verse 22.

    Thereby I violated two principles of hermeneutics.

    The loaves in verse 20 eaten on the Fiftieth Day (Shavuot or Pentecost) are as far removed from the cakes in 23:6-15 “eaten from the first day…on the fifteenth of the month…seven days”, as is leavened from unleavened bread, and as fifty days are distanced from fifty and one days before.

    The Fiftieth Day typified “the Bread of Life…more abundantly” by the Spirit of the Risen Christ; whereas “the first day unleavened bread eaten”— typified Christ put away in his Death, Burial and Grave “on the fifteenth day of the First Month…Selfsame Whole Day…Bone-Day…Passover of Yahweh” Leviticus 23:14,18…AND: 21! Which was where I made my mistake having coupled the “bone-day” in verse 21 with the First Loaves of Pentecost in verse 20.

    But to “cut” or to “reap the harvest” and “make riddance of the corners of your field”, meant you shall “gather” your “first sheaf of firstfruits” while “leaving for the poor the gleanings” for his “first sheaf”, both to be “lifted high” and “carried” and “brought to the Priest…on the fourteenth day of the First Month…Selfsame Whole Day…Bone-Day…Passover of Yahweh”.

    Leviticus 23:21 therefore does not place Pentecost on “Bone-Day” as I have at first maintained. Things were still blurred to me then. Which is understandable since no one before me has given these things thought.

    The Burial Day of Jesus’ last passover identical with that of the exodus passover, through this better understanding of the “Bone-Day” in the Scriptures, receives yet another instance of the occurrences of the appellation, “Bone-Day” in the Scriptures. If I remember correctly this brings it to the THIRTEENTH of the eighteen fast-phrased incidences of ‘ETSEM-YOM’ with bearing directly on the passover.

    With 13 out of 18 occurrences of “Bone-Day” or 13 out of 20 or more occurrences if the interspersed occurrences of “bone” plus “day” in the same context are added, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DENY the very existence and pertinent PASSOVER-MEANING of the Hebrew Scriptures-phrase.

    Now that the world has learned about the “Bone-Day” of the Passover of Yahweh and the Christ of God, let anyone who might still object to it, BRING HIS SCRIPTURES TO DENY IT OR KEEP SILENT!


     
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