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"Christmas"

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by Harold Garvey, Dec 25, 2009.

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  1. Harold Garvey

    Harold Garvey New Member

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    Yep, the baptist way, think some one is down and then dig a six foot hole and try to push'em into it. Makes me wonder how may people refuse to ever come back to church because of the way you express this type of brotherly love! Wonder how many notches ya got in your gun there, cowboy!
     
    #41 Harold Garvey, Dec 27, 2009
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    Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

    You haven't been gushing with brotherly love yourself there, Harold.
     
    #42 Trotter, Dec 27, 2009
  3. Harold Garvey

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    Seems to be a difference between getting shot, hearing the shot and the shooter. yeah, why dont I just leave
     
    #43 Harold Garvey, Dec 27, 2009
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    Christmas is not in the Bible. The birth of Christ is in the Bible but according to Noah Webster's first dictionary, Christmas is " The festival of the Christian church observed annually on the 25th day of December, in memory of the birth of Christ, and celebrated by a particular church service." Since there was not yet a Christian church and it was not December 25th and it was not in memory of the birth of Christ, it is not Christmas.

    A proper translation into English? Pascha being translated as Passover and not Easter. :wavey:
     
    #44 annsni, Dec 27, 2009
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    That certainly does not read like a definition from Webster's first dictionary. Where did you find it?
     
    #45 Jerome, Dec 27, 2009
  6. Amy.G

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    It's Webster's 1828 Dictionary.

    Here is the complete definition.

    Webster's 1828 Dictionary [A-J]
    christmas
    CHRISTMAS, n.

    1. The festival of the Christian church observed annually on the 25th day of December, in memory of the birth of Christ, and celebrated by a particular church service. The festival includes twelve days

    2. Christmas-day.
     
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    Webster's 1828 Dictionary [K-Z]
    paschal
    PAS'CHAL, a. L. pascha. Pertaining to the passover, or to Easter.
     
    #47 Amy.G, Dec 27, 2009
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    Nevermind, I wasn't fast enough.
     
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    #49 Jerome, Dec 27, 2009
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    Thanks - didn't know that. I'm home sick in bed so posted for brevity.
     
    #51 annsni, Dec 27, 2009
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    No. There is no word in koine Greek or OT Hebrew that can be accurately translated to "Christmas" in English, or into its equivalent in other languages (Weinachten, Kestfeest, etc).
     
    #52 Johnv, Dec 28, 2009
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    My head is spinning.

    Aren't you the one married to the KJV, which was first translated in 1611? Now, you're actually advocating that a word be added to the KJV for a "modern reader" in "today's version"? Since when did you start caring about "today's version"? What is "today's version" anyway? Why would the actual word "Christmas" need to be shoehorned into the Bible anyway?

    I'm just not sure how well this plan was thought through.
     
    #53 ccrobinson, Dec 28, 2009
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    Maybe it came because he finally realized that "Easter" is a mistranslation and should not be in the KJV, but rather Passover. But if "Easter" is in the KJV, then "Christmas" should be there also to make it a more "balanced" book. :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    I'd like to ask Harold Garvey to show me where Christmas is in the Bible given the definition of Christmas that I gave from the 1828 Webster's dictionary. Heck, I'll take a definition of ANY dictionary that he'd like to choose to use to show me one instance where Christmas is in the Bible.
     
    #55 annsni, Dec 28, 2009
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    You people dont define Christmas for the entire world with your references to paganism and the Catholics. Even Spurgeon has an entire sermon bashing Christmas in the same lack of light as you! Christmas is in our Bible and you cannot ever explain it way like all the agnostics try to. I must remember that I am dealing with Protestants and not true IFB. The fundamental truths of Luke 2 describe and define CHRISTMAS!!!
     
    #56 Harold Garvey, Dec 31, 2009
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    Harold, does it get tiresome staying so angry?

    Take ten choruses of "The Joy of the Lord is My Strength" and call me in the morning.
     
    #57 rbell, Dec 31, 2009
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    Don't make me laugh.:applause:
     
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    So the choice is I agree with you or I stand with Spurgeon.... wow, tough choice.:tongue3: :tongue3:
     
    #59 Tom Bryant, Dec 31, 2009
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    hehe hehe hehe.
     
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