Chuck Baldwin and Extremist John Birch Society in the news

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  1. YOUTUBECANBESAVED

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    Chuck Baldwin as a Christian should never speak at this extremist bigoted hatemonger group.(thank God this institution is dieing out with its old angry white men)

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    http://www.jossip.com/anti-american-psychos-keep-palin-as-close-as-their-handguns-20081010/

    Chryson has been a political fixture in the hometown of the Republican vice-presidential nominee for over a decade. During the 1990s, when Chryson directed the [Alaskan Independence Party], he and another radical right-winger, Steve Stoll, played a quiet but pivotal role in electing Palin as mayor of Wasilla and shaping her political agenda afterward. Both Stoll and Chryson not only contributed to Palin’s campaign financially, they played major behind-the-scenes roles in the Palin camp before, during and after her victory.

    Palin backed Chryson as he successfully advanced a host of anti-tax, pro-gun initiatives, including one that altered the state Constitution’s language to better facilitate the formation of anti-government militias. She joined in their vendetta against several local officials they disliked, and listened to their advice about hiring. She attempted to name Stoll, a John Birch Society activist known in the Mat-Su Valley as “Black Helicopter Steve,” to an empty Wasilla City Council seat. “Every time I showed up her door was open,” said Chryson. “And that policy continued when she became governor.”


    I would rather people vote for John McCain than Chuck Baldwin but now I guess Sarah Palin likes them too, so this group infiltrates a lot of people , they are a danger to our society they should be gone in a decade though.
     
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    Bigoted hatemonger group because why? And they are dangerous why?
     
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    So you think just because a candidate is invited and speaks to a group of people....which often includes the general public but is sponsored by a group/ clu/organization which provides the forum and the place..... That he should be judged upon their creditials...... ?
     
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    I was wondering that too Rev think we'll ever get an answer?
     
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    Hard to tell. But if Obama wins there very well may be a number of militias forming in preparation of the communist take over.
     
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    People who supported Ron Paul have already been thru the John Birch crapola...
     
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    Still waiting.
     
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    Good question.

    Used to be a Bircher - left because I disagree with a bunch of their stuff.

    But, 'bigoted, hatemongering, and dangerous?'

    I agree Rev, (I date myself here) - 'Where's the beef.'
     
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    They're a little to the right......but I wouldn't call them bigoted.
     
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    Well, my brother, if they are 'a little to the right' I understand why so many see me as a liberal - I am more than a 'little' to the left of the JBS now.

    But we agree, this is NOT the hate group the OP makes them out to be.
     
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    It's another lever people like to wedge under you. I really had to look them up, when I made it known I was a Ron Paul supporter on some other blogs.....
     
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    I think this is another one of his drive by postings.
     
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    Well, lets be fair, he only posted two hours ago, and is only 2.52 AM on the east coast at the moment :).

    However, I do suspect that when he gets up in the morning he will not address the concerns expressed.
     
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    He was around for a while after he posted this.
     
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    I'm getting kinda sick of the guys who do that, quite frankly. It makes the guys & gals who stand in there and take their beatings look like heroes.
     
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    What amazes me is how articulate you guys are in the middle of the night :).

    You think I am bad now - if I posted at 2.00 in the morning it would make even less sense (if you can believe that :) )
     
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    These 'angry olf white men' need to hear the message of God also. I do not know if Churck Baldwin will/did speak to them about God or not. We are called to "go into all the world," not just to safe havens.
     
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    Bumping this, can't let this challenge just slip by......

    And I'm pretty freaked out that you would doubt Baldwin's evangelistic efforts and not even try to point out any evidence as to why. I guess it's OK to pre-judge them if they're conservatives ?
     
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    I liked that little ole lady... :thumbs:

    Remember those ugly green striped shirts the Wendy's employee's would wear. My mother bought me one at the goodwill and because we never ate fast food, I never knew I was wearing a Wendy's shirt. Man did I get laughs at our 20 year reunion. Everyone remembered me and that shirt.
     
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    The dieing John Birch Society definitely is extremist and inspires hate

    Watch the entire video 52,000 hits so far more than this thread would hope to see


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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAm-...oliticalaffairs.net/article/articleview/7573/

    CNN reported this week on Sarah Palin's close ties to the Alaska Independence Party, which favors secession from the United States. The CNN report is the first in the corporate media to cover this story. These revelations about Palin's ties to the secessionist party have circulated widely on the Internet ever since McCain nominated Palin as his vice presidential running mate at the beginning of September.

    Tuesday, Oct. 14th, CNN anchor Rick Sanchez interviewed Salon.com writer David Neiwert, who is also the author of the definitive work on the militia movement in the 1990s titled, In God's Country, about Palin's ties to the extreme right-wing secessionist party.

    According to Neiwert, Sarah Palin's husband Todd Palin joined the Alaska Independence Party in the 1990s and held his membership until recently. While the evidence suggests Sarah Palin may not have joined, she did participate in at least two Alaska Independence Party conventions, in 2006 in person and in 2008 by video. Neiwert also suggested that she may have attended a third convention.

    Alaska Independence Party officials have given conflicting reports on whether or not Palin actually joined the Alaska Independence Party, however.


    According to Sanchez's reporting, former Alaska Independence Party founder, Joe Volger stated, "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won't be buried under their damn flag."
    At another point Volger said, "My government is my worst enemy. I am going to fight them with any means at hand."

    On the issue of violence, Volger stated, "I hope we don't have to take human life, but if they go on tramping on our property rights, look out, we're prepared to die."

    According to Neiwert, the Alaska Independence Party shares much of the ideological poison of the far-right "patriot" and militia movements that sprouted up in the 1990s, many of whom advocated terrorism and race war. Indeed, Neiwert also indicated that the Alaska Independence Party shares "the same ideological background" as Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols, convicted for their roles in blowing up the federal building in Oklahoma City in 1995.
    Whether the Alaska Independence Party is ready to commit acts of terrorism as its founder recommended or not, Neiwert refused to speculate. But he did say that Volger's expressions of hatred for America is "pretty standard even today" in the Alaska Independence Party.

    Neiwert then reported on Sarah and Todd Palin's ties to the party, after which CNN played the video-taped message Sarah Palin delivered to the 2008 convention of the Alaska Independence Party. In that message, Palin expressed wide agreement with the views of the Alaska Independence Party and congratulated its members on the convention and urged them "to keep up the good work."

    Neiwert also reported on Sarah Palin's ties to the local John Birch Society activists as Mayor of Wasilla, Alaska. According to Neiwert, Palin tried to appoint a member of the John Birch Society to the city council. Neiwert said this person has also been linked to the Alaska Independence Party. The John Birch Society advocated conspiracy theories about the New World order in the 1990s and had strong ties to the militia movement, Neiwert said.

    Sanchez frequently interrupted the interview with Neiwert to try to report on the McCain-Palin campaign's response to the story. While the McCain-Palin campaign refused to respond in person, the campaign sent CNN an e-mail. The e-mail described CNN's reproting about the facts of Palin's ties to the Alaska Independence Party as a "smear" and ironically compared it to Republican Party and McCain campaign's own distortions of Obama's religious background. The McCain-Palin campaign did not directly deny any of the revelations made in the news segment, however.

    John Birchers are hotheads in Arizona

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/383209_arizonline15.html

    snip:On Feb. 5 he won less than half of the vote in Arizona's Republican primary. A state poll conducted two weeks ago put him seven points ahead of Barack Obama. It is hardly an overwhelming lead in a state that has voted for a Democratic president only once since 1948.

    A big reason is that McCain is a moderate among hotheads. "Arizona has always had a vocal hard-right element," says John Shadegg, a congressman who supports the senator. In 1986 it elected a governor aligned with the ultra-conservative John Birch Society.


    McCain must do more to distance himself from extremists
    BY MATT DALEK

    Tuesday, October 14th 2008, 4:06 PM

    During the raucous 1964 Republican National Convention in San Francisco, Barry Goldwater's conservative defenders rained boos on moderate New York Gov. Nelson Rockefeller and cheered wildly when Goldwater declared that, "extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice." Back then, the far-right John Birch Society plagued the conservative movement, and reporters and ordinary Americans alike questioned whether conservative leaders were pragmatic, racially tolerant and forward-looking.
    Leaders from William F. Buckley to Ronald Reagan struggled to bring the movement into the American mainstream. The task wasn't easy.

    John Birchers are intolerant

    Praise be to the Lord Jesus Christ that these old codgers are dieing out, the Birchers still have a lot of Sugar Daddy with the Koch family they may try to reinvent themselves but I put Koch right up their with the Moonies.

    My Opinion on this Political Boards

    good to see the closet Birchers blowin a fuse :wavey:
     

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