Church in the U.S. Capitol

Discussion in 'Politics' started by 2 Timothy2:1-4, Oct 31, 2007.

  1. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    Many people are surprised to learn that the United States Capitol regularly served as a church building; a practice that began even before Congress officially moved into the building and lasted until well after the Civil War. Below is a brief history of the Capitol's use as a church, and some of the prominent individuals who attended services there.



    http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=90
     
  2. Ivon Denosovich

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    Interesting. I had no idea. Still, I'd have to say that capitol shouldn't bave beeen used as a church but that's just me. :)
     
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    That's because you've bought into the corrupted version of the separation clause.
     
  4. Magnetic Poles

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    There is NO separation clause. There is a free-exercise clause and an establishment clause in the First Amendment. One states our freedom to freely exercise any religion or none, while the other builds Jefferson's "Wall of Separation". In other words, one secures the freedom of religion, the other secures the freedom from religion.
     
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    Just so I know:

    1) Do you still think the capital should be used for a church?

    2) Do you think atheists should be forced to maintain a church through taxation?
     
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    I think it clearly shows we are misunderstanding the intent of our founding fathers when we do things like remove the 10 commandments from a government building or changing the words of pledge to our flag.

    I see no reason the capitol shouldn't be used as a Church if we so desire. This story shows our founding fathers and authors of our constitution agree with me. Atheist are free not to attend the service.
     
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    I thought this was real interesting...

    Jefferson attended church at the Capitol while he was Vice President 5 and also throughout his presidency. The first Capitol church service that Jefferson attended as President was a service preached by Jefferson’s friend, the Rev. John Leland, on January 3, 1802. 6 Significantly, Jefferson attended that Capitol church service just two days after he penned his famous letter containing the “wall of separation between church and stateâ€￾ metaphor.
     
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    LB, I wouldn't place any stock in the article. It is from David Barton's website.
     
  9. Magnetic Poles

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    The pledge was not instituted by the founding fathers. It WAS changed to ADD "under God" in the 1950s, during the McCarthy era.
     
  10. hillclimber1

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    Come on MP, it's a widely know fact, easily verified, by many sources.

     
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    Then give me some that aren't ultimately from Barton's revisionism. Sure, there were many Christians among the founders, but also many who were not. Even many of the Christians believed in separation.
     
  12. hillclimber1

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    The govt shan't establish a religion, nor prevent the free exercise of it. Allowing a religious organization to conduct services in a govt. building could not be construed as "establishing a govt. religion" but the corrupter's have deemed it so. The founders had not an inkling of the distortion we have wrought.
     
  13. Magnetic Poles

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    So YOU are the authority now. Hmmm.... :laugh:

    Anyway, I assume then if a group of Islamic citizens desire to hold services in the capitol in praise of Allah, you think that's a great idea?
     
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    many signatories of the first amendment, went home to start STATE sponsored churches. In that day do you suppose they were in violation? No of course not. But today it is unthinkable. The liberal bastardization of our religious heritage is rampant, but not yet fully completed. But many (ACLU and others) are working diligently on it. And that goal seems important to many on here.
     
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    Like who? What state sponsored churches did they start? And the First Amendment wasn't signed so much as passed by Congress and the state legislatures. Signing an amendment has no standing.
     
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    Two answers, here.

    1.) Certainly!! Why should there not be a church in Washington, D.C., or in the seats of government or capital in all the 55 states and territories that are part of the USA??

    2.) Our local church is currently involved in building an additional building with a larger auditorium/gym and classrooms. That takes a goodly amount of capital, as well, and in our case, about $1M.

    So yes!

    Now as to whether the capitol of the 56 above political entities of the U.S.A. should be so used? That may well be debatable. But not by me, this A.M.. I'll let some of the rest of you work on that, for now.

    (Sorry, C4K! Language Cop says he needs to earn his salary, by sometimes making necessary distinctions.)

    Ed
     
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    Great idea, NO!

    Shoud it be allowed, YES, as long as we Christians can have our day.

    I think this is the intent of freedom of religion, the government would not endorse any one religion over the next. You are free to choose your God or god which was a switch from the mother land.
     
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    No it's a terrible idea, but should be allowed, under the founders intent.
     
  19. hillclimber1

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    hmmm, maybe you should let me think for you, like sort of your authority, for awhile, till you get better.

    :thumbs:
     

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