Church never got back with me regarding evangelism

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  1. evangelist6589

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    Well I went to the elders but no one has returned my email. I do not personally know any of the elders. It's impossible to persuade someone against their will. My parents church is all over WOTM so it's a shame not everyone thinks the same regarding evangelism.
     
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    Unless you show positive results they are.not going to have anything to do with you.
    How many people have visited the church, much less becam3 members because of your "outreach"?
     
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    I highly doubt that they are that much into pragmatism. It may just be a particular preference in methods which is okay. There are plenty of churches out there into WOTM evangelism. I just won't be outspoken on my difference with them in regards to evangelism.
     
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    Is this the Reformed church you have been wanting to attend?
     
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    boy howdy, they'll run you out on a rail if you go in there with talking about free will...
     
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  6. Aaron

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    You don't say.
     
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    Aaron name the animal on my mind at this time. Yes Aaron don't ignore this but name the animal.
     
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    Excuse me????
     
  9. Earth Wind and Fire

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    Out of curiosity, have you ever looked at Landmarkism? I think there is a framework there that would suit you. just my opinion.
     
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    :Laugh:Laugh:Laugh
     
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    How could they bar him.....he isnt a member? If he would just sit there and shut up, he would be OK & possibly learn something.
     
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    Maybe you would learn something if you spent quality time with a rabbit.
     
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    How bout a Rabbi? :Biggrin
     
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    If his name is Tom, you could call him RabbiT
     
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    I'm going to write something that may not, at first, seem to apply to this thread. Give it some thought, let it sink in and percolate for a while, and let me know what you think.

    No man can truly submit 100% to God if he refuses to submit 100% to another man.
     
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  16. JamesL

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    Your view of them might run counter to their view of sovereignty...

    Are you sure you agree with them?
     
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    The reason I asked which church was that I was wondering if this was the church that you had mentioned in past posts.

    Sometimes churches have things in place, to their satisfaction anyway, and are very resistant to someone coming in and changing things. Sometimes they are apprehensive for good reasons, other times they may be apprehensive for not so good reasons. But here are a couple of things to consider as you move forward:

    First, if you are not a member of that church then you may find it difficult to gain support. Membership conveys a sense of responsibility and accountability (which goes both ways). If you are not a member then you are not the responsibility of that church (the elders have no business approving or disapproving of your efforts as you reside outside of their scope of responsibility).

    Second, you may find resistance in terms of your family situation. I really hate to bring this up, and you have my apologies if you find it inappropriate but as you’ve discussed it recently on the BB it needs to be examined. Some churches will consider a man who is separated from his wife as, at a minimum, unable to manage his household and therefore questionable in terms of leading a ministry. You may be looked upon by some as unqualified, particularly given the recent nature of the separation.

    Third, elders and pastors have concerns. They have struggles. Sometimes what is important to us (sometimes what is VERY important to us) are not important to them. It is not that they do not care, but that they also have issues that consume their daily lives.

    But more importantly, I believe (strongly) that churches need to disciple their own people and equip those under their care to evangelism. Churches should not depend on others to accomplish those things that God has placed as their responsibility. If you are not a member of that church then they have no reason to reply. If you are a member of that church, then they probably should take the time to know you and your doctrine before supporting you (my church has a policy that members cannot lead or teach until they have been members for a year...it is important that churches take the time to examine those they choose to support).
     
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  18. Earth Wind and Fire

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    Nope....Carl & he taught me some Hebrew.
     
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    John,

    Is this the church that you are presently attending?

    You said that you don't know these elders that you have emailed. Why not get to know them first - work up a relationship with them. Let them see you participating in the work of the LORD at that church.

    Become a co-worker, if you will, with them. Then they might be amiable to listen to your ideas.

    It takes time and effort to cultivate relationships like this.
     
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    Tell that to John Bunyan (just sayin'). :Coffee
     
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