Church plants

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  1. annsni

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    Tell me about your experience with church plants. The good, the bad, the ugly and any tips and concerns you have. Our church is in the discussion phase of this and it looks like we might have a bit of a hand in that (hubby and I) so it would be helpful to get experienced minds involved. Thanks!
     
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    Be sure there is a need for a gospel church, not just a desire to have your brand x church in that area. There are plenty of needy areas that don't have any gospel preaching churches.

    Be sure the purpose, plan etc. before you get involved and be sure you agree.

    If there is financing/help promised don't count too heavily on it as it often does not come or dwindles as time goes by.

    Be sure you are planting a church and not setting up a business. Some come at "planting" more as a business/cost effective venture than the Lord's business.
     
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    Yep - lots of scouting to be done.

    Yep - already being vision-cast by my husband with the staff. We're still in MAJORLY preliminary stages and it may not even work out, but I wanted to ask for any and all advice. This is great - thanks!

    Fortunately, our church believes in supporting it's missionaries fully until such time as they can be independent. We've already planted one church and that's how they did it. It took a few years and the pastor went bi-vo for a while just to get to know the people in the area because he went to a new state.

    Yep - thanks. We're actually looking at a more "Simple Church" model since it seems so many churches are getting so program oriented including our own (even *I* don't quite understand the offerings for this fall and I was in on the planning!). This would all definitely have to be God working this out and it would NOT be run like a business. We do have a man who was in business marketing who is on staff at church and I've found that we're of a bit different mind-set with some things but this is a new church - not a shoe store. God doesn't need "marketing" - maybe a little advertising but..... LOL We'll see how this all goes down. :)
     
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    From a failed plant experience, here are a couple thots off the top of my head.

    First importance in our failure was the failure to choose a real church planter who had a heart for evangelism and people building. They have to be willing to spend long hours knocking on doors reaching people. Healso has to be a detail person because there are HUGE amounts of little details that have to be cared for.

    Make sure that it is properly funded to really begin and thrive.

    The leader has to have a real personal committment to what the vision God gives for that particular church plant. Don't let disgruntled church members be a part of the plant because they will simply want that church to correct what they see as faults in their own church and will try to water down the vision.
     
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    I'd echo the wise comments above.

    One big thing for us in the past is making sure the leadership team for the church care more about people than aesthetics or pushing a theological agenda. (I'm not saying they should be theologically stupid, but just not planting a church because there isn't enough Calvinism in the area.)

    I've seen about five church plants and the ones which consistently make it have a) transparent leadership, b) welcoming people, c) clear, life application Bible teaching, d) genuine, authentic leaders, and e) the Gospel is at the center of their reason for being.

    Worship style isn't that big of an issue. Where they meet isn't that big of an issue. When they meet isn't that big of an issue.

    Outside of that I'll repeat the words above about funding and add. Don't give them everything but don't make them become beggars. Don't make your purse strings contigent on how they do church or how fast they grow in the first several years. Also, make sure you share their story with your people frequently. :)
     
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    We have tried fuchsias and hollies... uh, wait a minute- wrong thread.

    :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    I was waiting for some wise guy..........

    Once I take this ASL class, I'll answer you directly. ;)
     
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    Amen...Amen....and Amen! :thumbs:
     
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    Thanks for all of your help. I'll let you guys know the plans ..... once we're fully sure of what's going on and once it's announced to the congregation.
     
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    It is good to have a high eneregy trained group to pass out about 10,000 tracts. Personal eyeball to eyeball contact is important. Pray as if everything depends on God(which it does) and work as if everything depends on you.

    Get a nursery asap.:godisgood:
     
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    Thanks Bill. Fortunately, this church is not going to be planted in some remote location but actually right around the area where many of our congregants currently live. We'd be going about 40 minutes away from our own church and would have many of these people who live in that area attend with us an assist us in starting the church.

    As for nursery, that is one of our big focuses. We have a wonderful man in our congregation who is amazing with children and currently works for a children's missions organization and we'd love to have him on board with us. Because this area has so many young families (within about 2-3 miles from "ground zero" of our location idea are about 6 family restaurants like Chili's, Appleby's and such), we're looking to start out with a fully staffed children's ministry in place. It would be dumb to plant a church in an area with young families without having really good nurseries and children's ministries. :)
     
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    Just posted this on my blog and C&P here. :)


    Well, I'm ready to announce a new chapter in our lives that has developed over the last month. We're really excited about it and know that God had to use something humbling to get us here but we're ready for the future.

    DH and I will be planting a church. Technically, it will be another campus of our church but the style and staff will be a little different, although we'll have the infrastructure of our current church to back us up. So here's the story.

    Our pastor has had a vision of a church plant for a number of years but it's just not been the time to do it yet. He told us after the fact that he was waiting for one of the staff to come and say "I would like to do this" instead of assigning it to someone because it's going to be a lot of work and really needs someone with a vision behind it. So it's been on the back burner for a number of years.

    Just before vacation, my husband met with the senior and senior associate pastor and they basically took him off of being in charge of all the worship and instead would be taking that responsibility on themselves. This left my husband still leading one of the worship teams but not having a say in the direction or leadership of the worship ministry. It was a hard blow for him. It wasn't due to anything he had done so it was confusing to us as we went away the next day to go on vacation. Now basically, my husband's only responsibility was the computers and, honestly, if he was going to be a computer guy, he could do that in a regular job, make atleast twice as much money and no longer be struggling so with finances, and then volunteer to lead the worship team. When we went away on vacation, it seemed that would be the way we would go. But we left ready to pray about it and see what God would have us do. No one else knew about this but one other pastor who my husband had spoken to as a friend but not even our children knew.

    While on vacation, my husband came to me and told me that he felt God leading him to think about the church plant and he was beginning to see that maybe taking away the worship would free him up to be willing/able to do the church plant as it's leader and maybe that's why God let this happen. As we prayed about it, we both began to feel strongly that this was the road we were to take but we weren't sure how it would be taken back at home (church). When we returned, DH went to lunch with the senior pastor and told him what happened while we were away and Pastor sat quietly. He told DH that he had been waiting for someone to take this vision and be the "man" in the lead yet no one had come to him about it until now. He got excited as DH spoke to him and, over the next few days, began to see that this just might be it. So, from my understanding, Pastor will announce tomorrow morning in services about the church plant to the whole congregation. Wow.

    The basic plans are so far that we've found a location where there are no duplicate churches in the area (there are some other churches and some pseudo-churches as well, but none with the same stance on the basics as we have), and it's a youngish community. DH was just looking at the census information and that area has a high population of young families and it's a growing community. There's a lot of land there so for the future building, we will be able to build but for now, there are a number of hotels and a movie theater that we can look into as well as plenty of store-fronts. It is an area of the intersection of two main highways so it would be easy to get to from many areas and it's about 40 minutes away from our current home/church so we'd not have to move (unless we feel lead in the future to go out there, which is always a possibility). We would use the "simple church" model where we'd have Sunday services and home groups during the week, encouraging families to not be running all over for programs or separating to do their own things. Our home church has plenty of programs if people would like additional resources (kids' activities, youth group, classes for adults, support groups, etc.), but it would not be done at the new church. We have 9 pastors at our church and only 2 preach regularly (our senior pastor preaching to the congregation and our recovery pastor who preaches to the deaf) so that leaves 7 who would be able to cycle through the new church for possibly a few weeks at a time to do series of messages. We have a few worship teams who would be able to come through to assist in the worship and the area is one where we have atleast 25 families who are closer to the new location rather than our home church. So that would mean they could help "seed" the new church AND have someplace to bring their neighbors rather than a church 40 minutes away. We'd plan to have a great nursery/children's program set up for Sunday morning right from the start so families will feel comfortable coming.

    So we're at the starting gate. We're ready to go and begin the planning and vision casting for this new chapter in our lives. God is so good and I so thank Him for leading us and giving us a great church home to be launched from. It's going to be an interesting next year as we pull this off with God's help and I pray that this church would lift high the name of Jesus on Long Island. How humbling to be able to be a part of it!
     
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    We have a bed of tulips and other flowers out in front of the church and several bushes in the back. We also have a couple of inside miniature trees of some type in the outer lobby.
     
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    We personally like ivy and peace plants in the sanctuary with a few orchids interspersed in there too.

    Of course soon we'll be going to mums for the autumn!

    ;)

    Hey - you know that one of our pastors used to be a landscape designer? Guess who's the "flower committee"? LOL
     

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