Came across this video and thought it was an interesting discussion. Its one of the issues I'm struggling with of what is the most biblical means of church governance. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WbI8olwdE8 I’m paraphrasing here, but here are some snippets. James MacDonald – congregationalism as it exists in western world churches is a tool in the hand of Satan to cause great dissension in churches James MacDonald – members of the church should not aspire to governance, but to ministry. The business of the church is not the business of the church (budget, building, etc.) – the business of the church is ministry. Bald guy with beard and glasses – congregationalism is confused with democracy, not same thing. Mark Dever – congregationalism doesn’t work with carnal (unregenerate/unsaved) members James MacDonald – the whole thing is broken. People thing its their God given right to stand in judgment over their leaders. Bald guy with beard and glasses – each member has a responsibility to the profession of other members. Questions: Is the system wrong, or is it misuse of the system that causes the problem? Fix it, or is it a broken system, go plant new churches?