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Clones have souls?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by LorrieAB, Nov 27, 2005.

  1. TexasSky

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    The bible says God breathed the breath of life into a creation. That "breath of life" is what I call the soul.
     
  2. Johnv

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    I fail to see why the issue is even raised. Identical twins are clones. They have separate souls.
    Then all those people who were the result of in vitro fertolization have no soul? There have been hundreds of thousands of in vitro babies born in the last 28 years. Several of them are Christians.
     
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    Maybe is raises a serious question about when the soul is created. A question that has not been seriously answered over the years.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  4. Johnv

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    That question will forever go unanswered. Scripture doesn't tell us, so it's a matter of interpretive speculation. And I'm okay with not knowing that. My faith doesn't require me to know everything. I know I act that way sometimes, but....
     
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    Whether or not a clone will have a soul is sheer speculation and although I do not agree with tampering with God's creation He did create us in His likeness and to have the desire to create is our God givin drive, unfortunatly when you mix that with sin you do not get the desired affect God had intended and can venture into many gray and dark areas.

    The only way to tell whether or not a clone will have a soul is to create a clone and see. If it does it will certainly have a mind of its own and will not likely give up its body parts to the one that it was cloned from since it will probably have the same sense of self preservation as we do.

    And here is a thought: When God created Adam and Eve they were perfect they sinned and brought sin into the world and likewise when He had put Jesus in the womb of Mary Jesus was perfect. After the fall of man into sin every person born of man has been imperfect no matter if the birth was natural or created in a lab it was imperfect, I would suspect a clone would have the same defects especially if the DNA was taking from impperfect man. How do you create a perfect being from imperfect people without God Himself stepping in and making the change.
     
  6. TexasSky

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    The process of birth is the joining of two parts of DNA to produce a third DNA.

    The process of cloning is the same thing.

    Human DNA in a cloning situation should produce a human being.
     
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    No man ever created life. The cells were living when the DNA was inserted.
     
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    excentric and Gold Dragon:

    Sin is not something that is passed, sin is the absence of something, and that is life. We are all born spiritually dead. It's as simple as that.

    The Virgin Birth was for a sign, Isaiah 7;14. Christ's body could just as easily have been formed "in the family way" so to speak as it was miraculously. Gold Dragon is right in saying that Christ's righteousness is by virtue of His Divine Nature, of which we have become partakers, 2 Pet. 1:4, not by virtue of the Virgin Birth.
     
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    Here's a thought that I have thunk about this cloning business for a while. I am not dogmatic about it, just wondering what folk might think:

    1. Given that Lucifer always lusts after a body.
    2. Given that the Anti-Christ will be the incarnation (or the Satanic "Messiah")...or the Devil in the Flesh.
    3. Given that, with certain types of Cloning the product may or may not have a soul (I have read arguments both ways, even here).
    4. Given that the Anti-Christ will be a man whose lineage cannot be traced.

    ...is it possible that the Anti-Christ would be a Clone? Wouldn't it be simple for Satan to COMPLETELY possess a soul-less body? Just a thought. What are yours?

    Let me add also that Satan always tries to copy God..."I will be like God"...and wouldn't this truly be Satan in the flesh?
     
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